MoinMoin: MoinMoinChat/Logs/moin-dev/2009-02-07

2009-02-07T09:14:07  <dreimark> moin
2009-02-07T09:14:53  <TheSheep> moin
2009-02-07T09:32:34  <dreimark> problem in 1.8 http://paste.pocoo.org/show/103039/
2009-02-07T09:38:03  <dreimark> bbl
2009-02-07T13:46:52  <ThomasWaldmann> grzywacz: btw, please run the tests after doing changes before committing
2009-02-07T13:58:22  <CIA-38> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 4277:0c65fd71c7ad 1.8/ (2 files in 2 dirs): fix tests, skip known broken tests
2009-02-07T13:59:44  <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: that was because testing with SyntaxReference was pointless (there is just a redirect on that page, thus not much to test)
2009-02-07T14:11:30  <Noya> grzywacz: so, did you have time to test the patches?
2009-02-07T14:11:39  <Noya> are all of them merged? :)
2009-02-07T14:14:02  <ThomasWaldmann> Noya: see hg.moinmo.in/moin/1.8
2009-02-07T14:16:46  <Noya> ThomasWaldmann: yeah, I should have looked that up on my own...
2009-02-07T14:16:49  <Noya> sorry ;)
2009-02-07T14:18:38  <ThomasWaldmann> no problem :)
2009-02-07T14:19:04  <ThomasWaldmann> Noya: what moin version do you use with jabber?
2009-02-07T14:19:43  <Noya> ThomasWaldmann: 1.8.1-tip
2009-02-07T14:20:15  <Noya> yeah tip basically means... 1.8.1-one-week-ago :p
2009-02-07T14:21:58  <ThomasWaldmann> so jabber does not work for you right now because of jabber xmlrpc auth is broken?
2009-02-07T14:24:03  <Noya> ThomasWaldmann: the jabber-notifications work
2009-02-07T14:24:20  <Noya> ThomasWaldmann: the features like searching a page via jabber don't
2009-02-07T14:24:50  <Noya> pretty sad :)
2009-02-07T14:25:55  <CIA-38> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 4278:cbb5881697c2 1.8/MoinMoin/i18n/ (43 files): updated i18n
2009-02-07T14:28:54  <ThomasWaldmann> Noya: well, obviously that stuff needs more users and maintainers :)
2009-02-07T14:41:41  <CIA-38> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 4279:a14a30ec80af 1.8/wiki/underlay.tar: updated underlay
2009-02-07T15:17:49  <Noya> ThomasWaldmann: right :)
2009-02-07T15:19:05  <Noya> ThomasWaldmann: I already discussed it with dreimark, it would be really helpful for developers if you had an API / system documentation
2009-02-07T15:19:21  <Noya> it exists in german, secretly hidden in the wiki
2009-02-07T15:20:08  <Noya> I guess translating it into english would get more developers on board :)
2009-02-07T16:22:51  <ThomasWaldmann> there is docs.moinmo.in
2009-02-07T16:41:42  <grzywacz> ThomasWaldmann, mhm
2009-02-07T16:43:39  <TheSheep> it changes too fast
2009-02-07T17:40:07  <ThomasWaldmann> TheSheep: yes, and translation doesn't make it easier to maintain.
2009-02-07T17:50:54  <ThomasWaldmann> a good approach would be to document the refactored stuff better and link them from a common place
2009-02-07T17:52:53  <ThomasWaldmann> e.g. storage refactoring, dom refactoring, wsgi refactoring
2009-02-07T18:11:42  <ThomasWaldmann> any last words for 1.8.2? :)
2009-02-07T18:12:31  <ThomasWaldmann> ah, I forgot, we should talk about that : in IDs
2009-02-07T18:13:41  <ThomasWaldmann> currently the ID generation transforms an foo:bar (wanted) into foo.3Abar due to the use of url_quote_plus
2009-02-07T18:14:15  <ThomasWaldmann> but according to the specs, : is valid in IDs, so we better should get foo:bar as result
2009-02-07T18:14:22  <ThomasWaldmann> any comments?
2009-02-07T18:23:13  <ThomasWaldmann> and if our transformation is an identity for all valid IDs, we could apply it to the anchors in hrefs, also - without harming any valid anchor name
2009-02-07T18:24:20  <ThomasWaldmann> that would make somehow strange anchors with special chars (like umlauts or chinese) work within the wiki because both target id and href target are transformed in the same way
2009-02-07T18:25:13  <TheSheep> : is allowed in ids?
2009-02-07T18:25:18  <ThomasWaldmann> dennda: dreimark: grzywacz: Noya: ronny: TheSheep: waldi: xorAxAx: any comment?
2009-02-07T18:25:24  <ThomasWaldmann> the specs say so
2009-02-07T18:25:59  <TheSheep> a#edit:hover is <a id="edit"> or <a id="edit:hover"> ?
2009-02-07T18:26:02  <ThomasWaldmann> http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/types.html#h-6.2
2009-02-07T18:27:04  <ThomasWaldmann> TheSheep: yes, that's strange. no idea how they solve that.
2009-02-07T18:27:27  <TheSheep> \:
2009-02-07T18:27:37  <TheSheep> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/122238/handling-a-colon-in-an-element-id-in-a-css-selector
2009-02-07T18:27:54  <TheSheep> so it's a#edit\:hover for id="edit:hover"
2009-02-07T18:28:38  <TheSheep> I wonder which browsers actually support it ;)
2009-02-07T18:30:00  <dennda> sorry, no time atm. preparing for a threesome of exams next week :/
2009-02-07T18:31:03  <ThomasWaldmann> dennda: sorry for interrupting :)
2009-02-07T18:31:12  <dennda> np
2009-02-07T18:31:24  <TheSheep> dennda: good luck!
2009-02-07T18:37:40  <ThomasWaldmann> the question is what's less pain (and a long term solution, I don't want to change that all the time)
2009-02-07T18:58:24  <TheSheep> ThomasWaldmann: I'd say it's the same as with _
2009-02-07T18:59:54  <ThomasWaldmann> like "as long as we don't use it from the code for css stylable stuff, it is ok"?
2009-02-07T19:15:39  <TheSheep> yeah
2009-02-07T19:27:27  <CIA-38> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 4280:1f5b1e0423fb 1.8/MoinMoin/ (_tests/test_wikiutil.py wikiutil.py): id generation: do not quote colon as it is valid in IDs, add test for identity transformation of valid IDs
2009-02-07T19:38:02  <ThomasWaldmann> http://moinmo.in/MoinMoinBugs/1.8_Anchor_Macro_removes_underscore#foo%3Abar < is that %3A correct or should it be : there?
2009-02-07T19:42:18  <waldi> both are correc
2009-02-07T19:43:41  <ThomasWaldmann> ok
2009-02-07T19:48:47  <ThomasWaldmann> <a href="/WikiSandBox#%C3%BC%3A%C3%A4%21">#ü:ä!</a> that is what moin currently makes from [[#ü:ä!]]
2009-02-07T19:49:29  <ThomasWaldmann> i guess i just run that through same transformation
2009-02-07T19:56:05  <waldi> okay, got a mostly full rfc 3987 implementation
2009-02-07T20:09:35  <ThomasWaldmann> http://hg.moinmo.in/moin/1.8/file/1f5b1e0423fb/MoinMoin/formatter/__init__.py : 394 - does this make any sense?
2009-02-07T20:20:03  <ThomasWaldmann> waldi: is that practically useful?
2009-02-07T20:35:52  <ThomasWaldmann> waldi: great, reads like exactly what we need
2009-02-07T20:46:18  <ThomasWaldmann> waldi: ok, if we use IRIs later, that means that we'll have to change some stuff again
2009-02-07T20:49:30  <ThomasWaldmann> and also that I maybe rather don't make other changes now