MoinMoin: MoinMoinChat/Logs/moin-dev/2009-07-21

2009-07-21T00:24:33  <thw> # /etc/init.d/xend stop       Stopping XEN control daemon: xendTimeout, server not responding.
2009-07-21T00:25:05  <dreimark> argh
2009-07-21T00:25:10  <thw> (btw, this is from another machine. it obviously crashed on xend stop, the timeout msg is from ssh)
2009-07-21T01:09:55  <dreimark> it looks like once defined pragmas are persistent
2009-07-21T01:10:34  <dreimark> if one loops through different pageobjects
2009-07-21T01:25:07  <dreimark> good night
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2009-07-21T06:16:20  <CIA-36> Alexandre Martani <amartani AT gmail DOT com> default * 6160:e8c794d9ddaf 2.0-storage-editor-amartani/MoinMoin/ (4 files in 3 dirs): Real-time editor: create ajax_modify action and make mobwrite use it.
2009-07-21T06:16:22  <CIA-36> Alexandre Martani <amartani AT gmail DOT com> default * 6161:f7b7b1c1e3f0 2.0-storage-editor-amartani/MoinMoin/web/static/htdocs/applets/Mobwrite/mobwrite_moinmoin.js: Real-time editor: include copyright information
2009-07-21T06:16:23  <CIA-36> Alexandre Martani <amartani AT gmail DOT com> default * 6162:83b56f182b52 2.0-storage-editor-amartani/MoinMoin/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Real-time editor: Add text_editor.js with support for saving item with javascript (without exiting editor)
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2009-07-21T10:27:34  <dreimark> moin
2009-07-21T10:28:27  <ThomasWaldmann> moin
2009-07-21T10:29:07  <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: how do you fixed that trouble?
2009-07-21T10:29:50  <ThomasWaldmann> the first problem was a dumb error of mine
2009-07-21T10:30:35  <ThomasWaldmann> if you start the vm correctly with xm create configfile, you don't get that problem
2009-07-21T10:31:59  <ThomasWaldmann> shell.moinmo.in is on new machine now. i fixed the reverse dns right now.
2009-07-21T10:33:03  <dreimark> so I am on the right machine already ;)
2009-07-21T10:33:22  <ThomasWaldmann> yes
2009-07-21T10:40:48  <ThomasWaldmann> (but as a nice side-effect of some hours trying to get it working, we have a clean dom0 install now :P )
2009-07-21T10:44:35  <dreimark> thanks for the effort and the time you'd spent with that
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2009-07-21T12:21:18  <dimazest> there is no big difference in MoinMoin/search between 2.0 and 1.9
2009-07-21T12:21:46  <dimazest> probably, it is not that hard refactor 1.9 code and then merge it with 2.0
2009-07-21T12:22:13  <dimazest> but i need to study code more (which i'll do now)
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2009-07-21T12:40:46  <dimazest> ThomasWaldmann: i looked for TODOs, XXXs and your requests for groups. it is done
2009-07-21T12:41:47  <dreimark> dimazest: http://hg.moinmo.in/moin/1.9-groups-dmilajevs/file/f486af162cdf/docs/CHANGES.dmilajevs
2009-07-21T12:41:52  <dreimark> needs some more details
2009-07-21T12:42:38  <dimazest> dreimark: ok. which kind of details? for developers for users? or just in general?
2009-07-21T12:42:58  <ThomasWaldmann> don't assume other knowledge
2009-07-21T12:43:32  <ThomasWaldmann> point to the help pages, to your project page
2009-07-21T12:44:06  <dreimark> e.g. it is not clear that wikidicts was refactored
2009-07-21T12:44:07  <ThomasWaldmann> line 10 s/to access/access to/
2009-07-21T12:44:56  <ThomasWaldmann> line 11 is rather unclear, esp. the 2nd part
2009-07-21T12:45:41  <dreimark> it could also a bit more verbose in telling old call / new call
2009-07-21T12:45:55  <ThomasWaldmann> and please format it exactly in the way as you see in CHANGES, so I don't need to reformat it
2009-07-21T12:46:29  <dreimark> also you want to give a HINT tag
2009-07-21T12:46:50  <ThomasWaldmann> or just move the contents to CHANGES, we'll merge your stuff anyway and rather soon :)
2009-07-21T12:47:32  <dreimark> event better ;)
2009-07-21T12:47:35  <dreimark> -t
2009-07-21T12:48:14  <dimazest> ok
2009-07-21T12:48:32  <ThomasWaldmann> dimazest: it should tell about defaults. iirc, if someone just used wiki-based groups and dicts, he doesn't need to change his config? if so, please document it there.
2009-07-21T12:52:10  <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: if the default behaves as it did before, HINT is not needed maybe.
2009-07-21T12:54:01  <dreimark> I would add a hint about wikidicts emoved.
2009-07-21T12:54:05  <dreimark> +r
2009-07-21T12:54:45  <dreimark> because people with own scripts know then that they have to take care on that change
2009-07-21T12:55:41  <dreimark> e.g. http://moinmo.in/MoinAPI/Beispiele#wikidicts is gone now
2009-07-21T12:55:51  <ThomasWaldmann> yes, right. for developers it is interesting.
2009-07-21T12:59:04  <dimazest> thank you for points
2009-07-21T13:00:11  <ThomasWaldmann> dimazest: I'll merge in the evening, have it polished then. :D
2009-07-21T13:00:19  <dreimark> cool
2009-07-21T13:37:05  <dimazest> ThomasWaldmann: cool :)
2009-07-21T13:39:21  <dreimark> bbl
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2009-07-21T18:08:39  <CIA-45> Dmitrijs Milajevs <dimazest@gmail.com> default * 4872:ab696b0a23f2 1.9-groups-dmilajevs/ (45 files in 6 dirs): merged moin/1.9
2009-07-21T18:08:41  <CIA-45> Dmitrijs Milajevs <dimazest@gmail.com> default * 4873:eb86881788ce 1.9-groups-dmilajevs/docs/ (CHANGES CHANGES.dmilajevs): Groups2009: CHANGES.dmilajevs content was moved into CHANGES and refined.
2009-07-21T18:09:01  <dimazest> i'm just curious, why i can't upload anything which is more than ~100kb, but i can send photos to facebook, and send files in skype
2009-07-21T18:30:38  <ronny> dimazest: i once had that issue with a missmatched mtu in my router
2009-07-21T18:34:08  <dimazest> ronny: hmm, router is from telecom italia, it is kind of black box for me
2009-07-21T18:34:21  <dimazest> may be i shoul contact them
2009-07-21T18:55:59  <ThomasWaldmann> dimazest: upload in general or upload to moin?
2009-07-21T18:57:13  * ThomasWaldmann can confirm that routers one gets from $PROVIDER (esp. if they do not cost significantly extra) are often crap.
2009-07-21T18:58:02  <dimazest> in general, including moin
2009-07-21T18:59:14  <ThomasWaldmann> mtu should trigger earlier
2009-07-21T18:59:22  <ThomasWaldmann> you can upload 50k?
2009-07-21T19:00:12  <dimazest> 64k i can
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2009-07-21T19:01:53  <ThomasWaldmann> if 64kiB + 1 fails, I bet it has a 16bit cpu. :)
2009-07-21T19:06:45  <dimazest> ThomasWaldmann: it hangs with 68K, probably you are right
2009-07-21T19:08:19  * ThomasWaldmann .oO(64K upload ought to be enough for everybody)
2009-07-21T19:09:18  <ThomasWaldmann> but hey, even voting machines have integer overflows!
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2009-07-21T20:36:33  <ThomasWaldmann> dimazest: does it have a special reason why you talk about WikiGroups and wiki_groups in CHANGES?
2009-07-21T20:57:39  <dimazest> ThomasWaldmann: no, it is better to use WikiGroups
2009-07-21T20:57:45  <dimazest> the same for dicts
2009-07-21T21:12:04  <CIA-45> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 4874:7b181a7e35b2 1.9-groups-dmilajevs/ (3 files in 2 dirs): groups/dicts: improved docs/CHANGES and snippets
2009-07-21T21:13:01  <ThomasWaldmann> dimazest: you could announce it on the wiki / mailing list :)
2009-07-21T21:13:27  <ThomasWaldmann> arg, wrong repo
2009-07-21T21:20:09  <dimazest> :)
2009-07-21T21:23:17  <ThomasWaldmann> tests somehow feels slow suddenly in 1.9
2009-07-21T21:24:40  <dimazest> hmm, may it be becaouse of groups? some groups test do a lot of page creation
2009-07-21T21:25:53  <ThomasWaldmann> dimazest: you have write access to moin/1.9 repo now (be careful, please :)