2009-08-23T00:07:18 <dreimark> re
2009-08-23T00:12:05 <dreimark> dimazest: :) no exception currently
2009-08-23T00:16:03 <dreimark> in attachments is the resulting matches number always 0
2009-08-23T00:17:17 <dreimark> the Next navigation seems only to work until the 2nd page
2009-08-23T00:18:26 <dreimark> THIS is NO regression 1.9 has the same behaviour (to make that clear)
2009-08-23T00:23:51 <ThomasWaldmann> http://static.moinmo.in/svg/index.html < inconsistent behaviour (with FF, flash vs. native, inline vs object)
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2009-08-23T09:58:28 <dreimark> moin
2009-08-23T10:07:10 <ThomasWaldmann> moin
2009-08-23T10:11:39 <ThomasWaldmann> btw, the ie svg pain is not quite over. for the object tag, it is src= vs. data= and classid= vs. type=...
2009-08-23T10:12:40 <ThomasWaldmann> does someone know if this is specific to svg or the case in general?
2009-08-23T10:14:28 <waldi> no src=
2009-08-23T10:14:44 <waldi> data is the correct attribute according to the spec
2009-08-23T10:14:51 <dimazest> moin
2009-08-23T10:15:16 <waldi> type specifies the type of the object, classid the implementation
2009-08-23T10:15:52 <dimazest> dreimark: so that bug with navigation was before, because i could not understand what i have broken
2009-08-23T10:16:30 <dreimark> dimazest: it is not your bug
2009-08-23T10:22:23 <dimazest> dreimark: ok, but there is still a problem with stemming
2009-08-23T10:25:20 <dreimark> ist this problem because of the implemented stemming algo or in your code?
2009-08-23T10:25:31 * dreimark looks currently at http://moinmo.in/MoinMoinBugs/NoHitsOnPartialTitleSearch
2009-08-23T10:26:24 <ThomasWaldmann> waldi: http://codinginparadise.org/projects/svgweb/docs/QuickStart.html scroll down until "object tag"
2009-08-23T10:27:05 <waldi> ThomasWaldmann: http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/struct/objects.html#edef-OBJECT
2009-08-23T10:27:17 <dreimark> dimazest: currently i wonder about titlesearch A -> finds 6 pages
2009-08-23T10:27:30 <dreimark> and titlesearch for H does not found a page
2009-08-23T10:29:36 <dreimark> founds nothing (Iassumed it would find all Help pages)
2009-08-23T10:29:46 <ThomasWaldmann> waldi: i know the standard, but that doesn't help if it doesn't work for IE
2009-08-23T10:30:12 <dimazest> it looks for \bH\b, it won't match H****
2009-08-23T10:32:21 <dreimark> r:\bA\b gives no result too, why does A alone?
2009-08-23T10:32:47 <dreimark> AjudaComApresentaçõesDeDiapositivos/900 E por último: Visualizar a sua apresentação
2009-08-23T10:33:02 <dreimark> WikiCourse/01 What is a MoinMoin wiki?
2009-08-23T10:33:07 <dreimark> and 4 attachments
2009-08-23T10:35:15 <dreimark> hmm ist that because a is a word
2009-08-23T10:39:49 <dreimark> I think it finds the attachments because they are splitted to unzip 3 a
2009-08-23T10:40:04 <dreimark> and "a" is used in the page name so it is correct
2009-08-23T10:40:30 <dreimark> so entering the regex has a problem
2009-08-23T10:42:33 <dimazest> i see
2009-08-23T10:48:55 <dreimark> hmm, may be the word splitter should create more words (see the example for MoinMoinBugs on that page)
2009-08-23T10:50:34 <dreimark> MoinMoinBugs, Moin, MoinBugs, MoinMoin, Bugs, Moin, Moin, Bugs,
2009-08-23T10:53:47 <dreimark> dimazest: some of the examples on the page are wrong see explaination below
2009-08-23T10:59:06 <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: do we save the Category tag in 2.0 also on the item content or does it go to meta or something else
2009-08-23T11:10:12 <dreimark> dimazest: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/135800/
2009-08-23T11:10:28 <dreimark> NameError: global name 'fileds' is not defined
2009-08-23T11:10:33 <dreimark> sounds like a typo
2009-08-23T11:14:42 <dreimark> dimazest: we have a new class in wikiutil for version checking please replace your _check_version calls by that http://hg.moinmo.in/moin/1.9/rev/6638f02fc4b0
2009-08-23T11:16:50 <dreimark> dimazest: please look with pylint at MoinMoin/search/Xapian/indexing.py
2009-08-23T11:19:02 <dreimark> ignore warnings there
2009-08-23T11:19:18 <dreimark> only E please
2009-08-23T11:19:54 <dreimark> and also fix redefining warnings
2009-08-23T11:30:49 <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: i guess rather metadata
2009-08-23T11:31:28 <dreimark> otherwise it would be difficult to use it with non text items
2009-08-23T11:32:44 <ThomasWaldmann> yes and it will also be less problematic as parsing it from text
2009-08-23T11:32:51 <dreimark> :)
2009-08-23T11:42:54 <dreimark> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJKmEI06YiY
2009-08-23T11:43:06 * dreimark hacks currently a bit on that
2009-08-23T11:48:33 <ThomasWaldmann> yeah, it is nice, esp. it doesn't require you to install java.
2009-08-23T11:48:50 <ThomasWaldmann> the biggest missing thing is load via GET, save via POST
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2009-08-23T11:49:44 <ThomasWaldmann> maybe you could check if there is a feature request on their issue tracker for that
2009-08-23T11:50:12 <dreimark> it is http://code.google.com/p/svg-edit/issues/detail?id=60&q=load&colspec=ID Type Status Priority NeededFor Owner Summary
2009-08-23T11:51:24 <dreimark> and there is a patch for saving post data
2009-08-23T11:51:27 <dreimark> http://code.google.com/p/svg-edit/source/browse/trunk/editor/svg-editor.js?spec=svn46&r=46
2009-08-23T11:58:00 <ThomasWaldmann> hmm, looks like we'll have same issues with svg editing as with html editing
2009-08-23T11:58:37 <dreimark> unfortunately yes. we need save_svg too
2009-08-23T11:59:12 <ThomasWaldmann> i mean with security.
2009-08-23T11:59:33 <dreimark> yes me too save_html parser and save_svg parser
2009-08-23T11:59:52 <ThomasWaldmann> "safe" :)
2009-08-23T12:00:00 <dreimark> ohhh
2009-08-23T12:04:50 <ThomasWaldmann> one issue with svg files/content is that <?xml> and doctype declaration
2009-08-23T12:05:32 <ThomasWaldmann> and also the width/height attrs contained in the file
2009-08-23T13:14:36 <ThomasWaldmann> http://codinginparadise.org/projects/svgweb/samples/svg-files/photos.svg funny
2009-08-23T14:01:16 <CIA-34> Dmitrijs Milajevs <dimazest@gmail.com> default * 5028:4b2ef153ad4f 1.9-xapian-dmilajevs/MoinMoin/search/ (6 files in 5 dirs): Xapian2009: pep8 and typo fixes.
2009-08-23T14:07:58 <dimazest> dreimark: i'm not shure that we need to split MoinMoinBugs also on MoinBugs, finally it is split on Moin and Bugs
2009-08-23T14:09:41 <dreimark> I think we keep it as it is too
2009-08-23T14:18:14 <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: if you split search term in the same way as content when indexing, that solves automatically
2009-08-23T14:19:41 * dimazest thinks to take a Computational Linguistics course
2009-08-23T14:34:03 * ThomasWaldmann had that also, quite a while ago
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2009-08-23T15:33:54 <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: waldi: did you fill out the eval forms?
2009-08-23T15:34:24 <ThomasWaldmann> xorAxAx: there is an optional form you may want to fill out (or not)
2009-08-23T15:36:05 <xorAxAx> it said "midterm" and had the same questions like at midterm
2009-08-23T15:36:21 <xorAxAx> either its a bug or a bad joke
2009-08-23T15:37:09 <ThomasWaldmann> (there is time left until tomorrow 19:00 UTC to do the forms, do not forget)
2009-08-23T15:37:26 <ThomasWaldmann> xorAxAx: yes, I already had filled that out a while ago, too.
2009-08-23T15:37:54 <ThomasWaldmann> as they say it is optional, it is not that critical as the mentor/student final evals
2009-08-23T15:38:10 <xorAxAx> luckily, i dont have a student eval form :)
2009-08-23T15:38:57 <ThomasWaldmann> amartani: dennda_: dimazest: also make sure you have filled out all forms required by google in time.
2009-08-23T15:57:08 <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: I did already
2009-08-23T15:58:03 <dreimark> that 1.8-svgdraw-jmeier repo commit strings are annoying
2009-08-23T15:58:11 <dreimark> he could also tell blablablub
2009-08-23T16:03:59 <ThomasWaldmann> i already told him.
2009-08-23T16:04:30 <ThomasWaldmann> looks like moin2 will have much more svg stuff :)
2009-08-23T16:06:24 <ThomasWaldmann> btw, do we have a meeting right now? :)
2009-08-23T16:06:40 <ThomasWaldmann> ah, no, 16:00 UTC...
2009-08-23T16:07:16 <dimazest> i've filled it in already
2009-08-23T16:07:18 <ThomasWaldmann> waldi: please do a reality check on realtimeeditor
2009-08-23T16:07:21 <dreimark> +2h
2009-08-23T16:08:13 <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: we could use svg to render normal raster images, too
2009-08-23T16:08:36 <ThomasWaldmann> (and offer interactive resize, rotate, etc.)
2009-08-23T16:09:25 <dreimark> http://moinmo.in/ConvertibleFormats
2009-08-23T16:09:48 <ThomasWaldmann> no need
2009-08-23T16:09:56 <dreimark> I think SVG is that meta format
2009-08-23T16:10:09 <ThomasWaldmann> <image xlink:href="foo.png" /> is enough
2009-08-23T16:10:17 <dreimark> a ok
2009-08-23T16:10:40 <ThomasWaldmann> and it lets you scale, rotate, blur, ... that image then
2009-08-23T16:11:48 <ThomasWaldmann> and as svg can contain rdf metadata, we could even pull title, author, license, etc. out of it
2009-08-23T16:12:37 <dreimark> cool
2009-08-23T16:13:13 * dreimark rebuild index for 1.9-xa
2009-08-23T16:17:58 <dreimark> dimazest: installing a package gives still Exception RuntimeError: 'maximum recursion depth exceeded while calling a Python object' in <type 'exceptions.AttributeError'> ignored
2009-08-23T16:20:32 <dreimark> (seaching seems to work, but no idea if the index has them all)
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2009-08-23T16:51:07 <dimazest> dreimark: installing arnica?
2009-08-23T16:51:59 <dimazest> dreimark: should i clone clone http://hg.moinmo.in/moin/extensions ?
2009-08-23T16:52:11 <dreimark> dimazest: you can go to a page on moin and create a pagepack including attachments
2009-08-23T16:52:12 <dimazest> or download zip?
2009-08-23T16:53:29 <dreimark> e.g. http://moinmo.in/MoinAPI/Beispiele?action=PackagePages
2009-08-23T16:53:46 <dreimark> Include all attachments? [X}
2009-08-23T16:53:54 <dimazest> should i do it on my local wiki?
2009-08-23T16:54:08 <dreimark> download it and put it on your wiki while watching the terminal
2009-08-23T16:54:28 <dimazest> ok
2009-08-23T16:54:44 <dreimark> then go to attachfile and call install
2009-08-23T16:55:09 <dreimark> the difference to a zip file is that it can create pages and attachments, while a zipfile only unpacks files
2009-08-23T16:55:30 <dreimark> (it can do much more)
2009-08-23T16:57:31 <dimazest> Bus error :) need to explore
2009-08-23T16:57:41 <dreimark> is this linux?
2009-08-23T16:57:51 * dreimark hasn't got a bus error
2009-08-23T16:58:31 * dreimark needs some js / GET/POST help.
2009-08-23T16:58:46 <dreimark> I get 2009-08-23 16:51:39,558 INFO MoinMoin.web.serving:41 127.0.0.1 "GET /Example2?action=SVG-Editor&do=save&svg_data=PD94... HTTP/1.1" 200 -
2009-08-23T16:59:27 <dreimark> obviosly moin tells 200 which is correct, but why don't I get the action called
2009-08-23T16:59:58 <dreimark> (I replaced for showing POST by GET, same problem for POST)
2009-08-23T17:03:50 <dreimark> (1.9)
2009-08-23T17:10:42 <dreimark> lol because of a typo
2009-08-23T17:14:05 <dimazest> dreimark: it is mine python2.4 behaviour
2009-08-23T17:15:03 <dreimark> ok, then investigate it ;)
2009-08-23T17:15:15 <dreimark> I look at py 2.4 later too
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2009-08-23T17:45:28 <xorAxAx> i wont be at the meeting
2009-08-23T17:45:50 <xorAxAx> i have a visitor
2009-08-23T17:46:01 <dreimark> ok
2009-08-23T18:00:48 <dreimark> meeting time
2009-08-23T18:01:34 <dreimark> dimazest: ThomasWaldmann: waldi amartani ping
2009-08-23T18:01:54 <waldi> I'm here
2009-08-23T18:02:01 <amartani> here
2009-08-23T18:02:41 <dreimark> amartani: then please start
2009-08-23T18:03:59 * ThomasWaldmann too
2009-08-23T18:04:10 <amartani> LAST: Showing conflicts, merging when activating mobwrite, code cleanup.
2009-08-23T18:05:44 <amartani> NEXT: Work on that can be done of the remaining issues.
2009-08-23T18:05:51 <ThomasWaldmann> does the wiki page reflect the current code state, todo, known issues?
2009-08-23T18:06:58 <amartani> ThomasWaldmann: I think mostly is.
2009-08-23T18:07:32 <ThomasWaldmann> could you add a paragraph or two with some high level description of how it all works together?
2009-08-23T18:08:36 <ThomasWaldmann> waldi: data loss, did you check?
2009-08-23T18:08:40 <amartani> sure.
2009-08-23T18:10:18 <waldi> ThomasWaldmann: it still can loose the data between two syncs if two clients change the same section
2009-08-23T18:10:26 <ThomasWaldmann> the button state is still incorrect :|
2009-08-23T18:10:56 <amartani> waldi: I have read your comment. It is doing a sync before saving. I will check if the save is not getting the last version.
2009-08-23T18:11:56 <ThomasWaldmann> amartani: if i change something, save&cont, the other editor will get the content update and then his "save" button will be active, although that content is already saved.
2009-08-23T18:13:00 <amartani> ThomasWaldmann: yes, as I said, this is not so easy to fix correctly, so I was working on other things first.
2009-08-23T18:13:28 <ThomasWaldmann> did you talk with other people about that problem?
2009-08-23T18:13:35 <waldi> amartani: are you sure that the update is done or is it only called asyncron?
2009-08-23T18:14:16 <ThomasWaldmann> dennda_: you are not online due to vacation, right?
2009-08-23T18:15:03 <amartani> waldi: the save is done on sync callback
2009-08-23T18:15:35 <waldi> okay. then it obviously does not work the way it should
2009-08-23T18:16:20 <ThomasWaldmann> ok, maybe we continue with the details afterwards.
2009-08-23T18:16:25 <waldi> yes
2009-08-23T18:16:31 <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: questions for amartani?
2009-08-23T18:16:56 <dreimark> do you have reread mypoint about the ui change amartani
2009-08-23T18:19:12 <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: you mean about locking editors out if the mode is not shared?
2009-08-23T18:19:38 <dreimark> it is now a bit simpler because of waldi's point
2009-08-23T18:20:23 <dreimark> Ok, that makes the ui much simpler, unless someone has selected sharing the page can't be opened for editing from another one. So not two or more could start editing and have to decide later that they want to share "now". And if one has enabled sharing all the others get shared mode when they try to edit this page.
2009-08-23T18:20:52 <dreimark> That will also avoid:
2009-08-23T18:20:52 <dreimark> * This page is opened for editing by localhost. You should refrain from editing this page to avoid editing conflicts. To leave the editor, press the Cancel button.
2009-08-23T18:20:55 <dreimark> *
2009-08-23T18:20:58 <dreimark> This page is opened for editing by ReimarBauer. You should refrain from editing this page to avoid editing conflicts. To leave the editor, press the Cancel button.
2009-08-23T18:21:22 <ThomasWaldmann> that's mandatory locking in nonshared mode
2009-08-23T18:21:53 <dreimark> at current state it makes editing with mobwrite also saver
2009-08-23T18:22:45 <ThomasWaldmann> if you keep the lock infinite, you can hinder someone else from editing
2009-08-23T18:23:05 <ThomasWaldmann> if you don't, you have the same problem as without lock, just a few minutes later
2009-08-23T18:24:10 <ThomasWaldmann> amartani: update diary please
2009-08-23T18:24:50 <ThomasWaldmann> ok, i guess we continue with the details later. we have a bit more time today, but not endless. :)
2009-08-23T18:24:52 <amartani> ThomasWaldmann: Ok, I'll update today
2009-08-23T18:25:06 <ThomasWaldmann> dimazest: your turn :)
2009-08-23T18:25:13 <dreimark> currently I think it is easier to concentrate on solving an issue if you don't be trapped by several combinations of problems
2009-08-23T18:25:24 <dimazest> ok
2009-08-23T18:25:30 <dimazest> LAST: More tests for searching, fixes of failing tests
2009-08-23T18:25:31 <dimazest> NEXT: locking issue fixing, fix searching with stemming. Practical tests, docs
2009-08-23T18:25:36 <ThomasWaldmann> for dennda: LAST: fixed some issues at monday, then vacation
2009-08-23T18:26:32 <ThomasWaldmann> (I guess everyone is aware that NEXT == today and tomorrow)
2009-08-23T18:26:43 <dreimark> (from the perspective of gsoc)
2009-08-23T18:27:13 <dimazest> hmm, too much for 2 days
2009-08-23T18:27:19 <dreimark> dimazest: please don't do very last code submissions to google.
2009-08-23T18:27:23 <ThomasWaldmann> yes, we won't hold anyone back from contributing at any time :)
2009-08-23T18:27:42 <dimazest> then i concentrate on docs, and description
2009-08-23T18:27:50 <dreimark> good decission
2009-08-23T18:28:06 <dimazest> and after on fixing problems (not as part of gsoc)
2009-08-23T18:28:18 <dreimark> :) :) :)
2009-08-23T18:28:26 <dimazest> :)
2009-08-23T18:28:32 <ThomasWaldmann> dimazest: you are still working on the basic stuff, right, no improved results order right now, right?
2009-08-23T18:28:48 <dimazest> ThomasWaldmann: no
2009-08-23T18:29:16 <ThomasWaldmann> that was ambigue
2009-08-23T18:29:33 <dimazest> i'm forking on basic stuff
2009-08-23T18:29:44 <ThomasWaldmann> ok
2009-08-23T18:29:46 <dimazest> *working :)
2009-08-23T18:30:17 <dreimark> the current state is good or even better to become merged with 1.9
2009-08-23T18:30:29 <dreimark> it is much more testdriven
2009-08-23T18:30:51 <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: you did practical tests compared to moin/1.9?
2009-08-23T18:31:08 <dreimark> yes
2009-08-23T18:31:20 <dreimark> and I do with some more content next week
2009-08-23T18:31:21 <dimazest> i was trying to do it so, but still some tests are missing (attachment and file indexing)
2009-08-23T18:31:44 <ThomasWaldmann> so the visible wiki user search experience is equal or better than with moin/1.9?
2009-08-23T18:31:45 <dimazest> dreimark: great, then i concentrate on bugs (after docs)
2009-08-23T18:33:08 <ThomasWaldmann> (because that is usually the merge criteria: being better :)
2009-08-23T18:33:11 <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: it needs some more tests with more content. it would be good to compare it with a test moin wiki
2009-08-23T18:33:15 <dreimark> MM
2009-08-23T18:33:56 <dimazest> how big is MM wiki?
2009-08-23T18:34:49 <ThomasWaldmann> some thousand pages
2009-08-23T18:36:01 * dreimark has not checked for acl protected pages
2009-08-23T18:36:06 <dimazest> ThomasWaldmann: what do you think about testing with MM data
2009-08-23T18:36:42 <ThomasWaldmann> it is more complicated from your POV
2009-08-23T18:37:08 <ThomasWaldmann> (because you don't have server access for rebuilding index / debugging etc.)
2009-08-23T18:37:41 <ThomasWaldmann> so I suggest to first fix the bugs you can find in a local setup
2009-08-23T18:38:44 <dimazest> ok, i have things to do without BIG testing :)
2009-08-23T18:38:50 <ThomasWaldmann> waldi: any questions for dimazest?
2009-08-23T18:40:52 <waldi> no
2009-08-23T18:42:06 <ThomasWaldmann> ok, then we are through with the official part I guess. thanks for participating. :)
2009-08-23T18:42:35 <dimazest> :)
2009-08-23T18:42:51 <ThomasWaldmann> and use the remaining day to review your stuff, clean up, fix major bugs.
2009-08-23T18:44:01 <ThomasWaldmann> contributions after the end of SOC are very welcome. YOU are the specialist for your code. :)
2009-08-23T18:45:08 <ThomasWaldmann> if we are rather sure about the search code having no regressions, we'll merge it into 1.9, so it'll get released in the not too far future.
2009-08-23T18:45:54 <dimazest> we will see, it is needed to be checked how it behaves
2009-08-23T18:45:59 <ThomasWaldmann> similar is true for the realtime editor, there is a bit more time left, though, until 2.0 gets near beta or release.
2009-08-23T18:47:03 <ThomasWaldmann> storage is already in the "main" 2.0-storage repo and except some sqla slowness, it works quite ok.
2009-08-23T18:48:18 <amartani> ThomasWaldmann: thanks.
2009-08-23T18:49:38 <ThomasWaldmann> btw, help in other areas, so we can release 1.9 or 2.0 sooner is also very welcome.
2009-08-23T18:51:04 <ThomasWaldmann> for the realtime editor, one could try combining it with svg editor or ckeditor :)
2009-08-23T18:51:15 <ThomasWaldmann> just to see what happens
2009-08-23T18:52:08 <amartani> svg editor would be really cool :)
2009-08-23T18:53:03 <dreimark> amartani: I am working a bit on svg-edit currently. Iwill push soon a version to the moin extension repo
2009-08-23T18:53:24 <dreimark> As a javascript expert you are very welcome to help
2009-08-23T18:54:06 <dreimark> (as anyone else too)
2009-08-23T18:55:03 <ThomasWaldmann> amartani: and I added svgweb to main repo, which likely soon will solve the "IE SVG" issue
2009-08-23T18:55:31 <ThomasWaldmann> so we finally can have svg stuff without IE users whining
2009-08-23T18:56:26 <ThomasWaldmann> it still has some bugs with width/height/scale, but it already can do much more advanced stuff than this.
2009-08-23T18:57:55 <amartani> dreimark: I wouldn't call myself a javascript expert, but sure, I'll see what can I help
2009-08-23T18:58:31 * ThomasWaldmann .oO(it doesn't need much to be better in JS than me)
2009-08-23T18:58:37 <dreimark> amartani: I guess you are more an expert than me
2009-08-23T18:58:42 <dreimark> hehe
2009-08-23T18:58:53 <amartani> thanks
2009-08-23T18:59:43 <amartani> I'm going launch, bbl.
2009-08-23T19:01:02 <ThomasWaldmann> don't fly to high :)
2009-08-23T19:01:06 <ThomasWaldmann> too
2009-08-23T19:06:12 <amartani> oops, I'm trusting too much on spell checker
2009-08-23T19:11:29 <ThomasWaldmann> it shows up all the time here how much our brain is driven by phonemes
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2009-08-23T22:54:41 <dreimark> I need a javascript hint how to decode from Utils.encode64(svg);
2009-08-23T22:55:05 <dreimark> TheSheep: ^
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