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5 2010-01-13T09:44:34 <dreimark> moin
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10 2010-01-13T17:12:29 <dreimark> bbl
11 2010-01-13T18:51:31 <ronny> ThomasWaldmann: btw, whats the general idea on implementing something like comments/page-discussions in 2.0
12 2010-01-13T18:52:08 <johill> you mean namespaces? :)
13 2010-01-13T18:52:31 <johill> I mean, what's the purpose of such a thing except to separate it out
14 2010-01-13T18:53:10 <ronny> johill: im have no idea what you mean now
15 2010-01-13T18:53:40 <johill> I'm just thinking of wikipedia's Discussion: and User: etc
16 2010-01-13T18:53:47 <ronny> i mean stuff like putting a thread of comments on a image/ticket/movie in the wiki
17 2010-01-13T18:53:50 <johill> and wondering what you're thinking of
18 2010-01-13T18:54:04 <johill> oh like a bb-style form thing?
19 2010-01-13T18:54:20 <johill> or forum-style?
20 2010-01-13T18:54:23 <ronny> yes
21 2010-01-13T18:54:39 <johill> what advantages do you see in that over hand-editing a page?
22 2010-01-13T18:55:00 <johill> or possibly having a way to add comments to a page in a more structured way?
23 2010-01-13T18:55:14 <johill> like not 'the page' but a 'comments page'
24 2010-01-13T18:55:16 <ronny> yup, also to prevent other users from editing my comments
25 2010-01-13T18:55:26 <johill> oh ok
26 2010-01-13T18:55:39 <johill> dunno
27 2010-01-13T18:56:02 <ronny> well, i suppose a set of items could do
28 2010-01-13T18:56:13 <johill> I'd fear that you get a page that has a lot of outdated information, and then a huge list of comments explaining how it's wrong ;)
29 2010-01-13T18:56:58 <ronny> well, i would use comments for stuff like tickets or media
30 2010-01-13T18:57:11 <johill> right
31 2010-01-13T18:57:21 <ronny> and discussions should probably have topics one can mark as finished
32 2010-01-13T18:58:09 <ronny> ThomasWaldmann: btw, seen how fossil works, its repo structure is pretty interesting
33 2010-01-13T18:58:32 <dreimark> ronny: you speak about supplementation pages like in 1.x
34 2010-01-13T18:58:37 <dreimark> ?
35 2010-01-13T18:59:40 <johill> ronny: I've been thinking if moin should be based on django to allow integration with other django apps
36 2010-01-13T18:59:52 <ronny> johill: never ever :P
37 2010-01-13T19:00:19 <ronny> well
38 2010-01-13T19:00:29 <johill> but of course django is all about db, and we have our own stuff for that
39 2010-01-13T19:00:53 <ronny> johill: i despise pretty much all parts of django
40 2010-01-13T19:01:04 <johill> really? oh well
41 2010-01-13T19:01:15 * dreimark watches a talk about scapy
42 2010-01-13T19:01:23 <ronny> dreimark: url?
43 2010-01-13T19:01:36 <johill> I didn't want to work on that anyway, but I did ponder integration between moin and other things
44 2010-01-13T19:03:11 <dreimark> ronny: http://moinmo.in/HelpOnConfiguration/SupplementationPage
45 2010-01-13T19:03:25 <ronny> dreimark: i meant that scapy talk
46 2010-01-13T19:03:47 <dreimark> ah it is not online yet i am at pycologne
47 2010-01-13T19:04:10 <ronny> dreimark: i understood what SupplementationPage's are, but i'd prefer to have acl'd items for each comment, so others cant change them
48 2010-01-13T19:09:21 <dreimark> interesting, may be add a fr page and describe it. this is similiar to something like section editing
49 2010-01-13T19:10:15 <johill> could also be done with a page per comment
50 2010-01-13T19:10:24 <johill> like comment/1/2/1
51 2010-01-13T19:10:35 <johill> would be the first reply to the second reply to the first comment
52 2010-01-13T19:11:03 <johill> and then a smart include
53 2010-01-13T19:27:40 <dreimark> thats something like subitems then
54 2010-01-13T19:28:46 <dreimark> dennda: are different acls for subitems possibel?
55 2010-01-13T19:29:14 <dreimark> s/el/le/
56 2010-01-13T19:29:44 <dennda> define subitem
57 2010-01-13T19:30:38 <dennda> every item has its own acl (actually it may have different revisions of those acls in the item's revision's metadata.)
58 2010-01-13T19:30:47 <dennda> so i guess the answer to your question is yes
59 2010-01-13T20:52:44 <johill> yeah it sure is :P
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62 2010-01-13T22:39:51 <dreimark> re
63 2010-01-13T23:01:02 <johill> hm I should port latex to sendcache
64 2010-01-13T23:01:05 <johill> for the caching
65 2010-01-13T23:01:19 <johill> all the images
66 2010-01-13T23:04:42 <dreimark> johill: mathtran is doing this already
67 2010-01-13T23:05:03 <dreimark> if you want an example
68 2010-01-13T23:05:16 <johill> hm?
69 2010-01-13T23:05:20 <johill> I have a latex parser/macro
70 2010-01-13T23:05:26 <johill> but it creates attachments
71 2010-01-13T23:05:32 <johill> just thinking it should do sendcache
72 2010-01-13T23:05:38 <dreimark> http://hg.moinmo.in/moin/extensions/file/67b064b600e9/data/plugin/parser/text_x_mathtran.py
73 2010-01-13T23:06:56 <dreimark> http://hg.moinmo.in/moin/extensions/file/67b064b600e9/data/plugin/parser/inline_latex.py
74 2010-01-13T23:07:12 <dreimark> http://hg.moinmo.in/moin/extensions/file/67b064b600e9/data/plugin/macro/mathtran.py
75 2010-01-13T23:07:47 <johill> hm but that uses the service
76 2010-01-13T23:08:18 <dreimark> and yours has more config options
77 2010-01-13T23:08:28 <johill> heh no idea
78 2010-01-13T23:08:33 <johill> if that's a good thing
79 2010-01-13T23:08:50 <dreimark> i think you have some configs which could be shared
80 2010-01-13T23:08:55 <dreimark> and mathtran is tex
81 2010-01-13T23:09:13 <johill> mine just calls tex too
82 2010-01-13T23:11:33 <dreimark> ok, if it is ported to sendcache it is nice to have too. some people don't like to share their formulars with mathtran
83 2010-01-13T23:11:53 <johill> or rely on it not going down while you want to view your pages ...
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