MoinMoin: MoinMoinChat/Logs/moin-dev/2010-04-30

   1 2010-04-30T00:26:03  <ThomasWaldmann> http://geekandpoke.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8341d3df553ef0133ecbd215c970b-pi
   2 2010-04-30T00:30:46  <valeuf> ThomasWaldmann: well, it is simple to implement METADATA :p
   3 2010-04-30T00:32:28  * ThomasWaldmann thinks about where to implement md indexing
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   8 2010-04-30T09:20:44  <dreimark> haha
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  13 2010-04-30T18:13:38  <aa_> hi everyone
  14 2010-04-30T18:15:54  <ThomasWaldmann> hi aa_
  15 2010-04-30T18:16:11  <ThomasWaldmann> hm, diofeher not here right now
  16 2010-04-30T18:18:12  <ThomasWaldmann> well, moin 1.x has plugins, like actions, macros, parsers
  17 2010-04-30T18:18:19  <ThomasWaldmann> they are dynamically loaded when needed and a admin just puts them into some plugin dir, so they get found there
  18 2010-04-30T18:18:38  <aa_> ok
  19 2010-04-30T18:18:45  <ThomasWaldmann> for moin2, we envision a more flexible approach
  20 2010-04-30T18:19:11  <ThomasWaldmann> more like "everything that belongs to one app is in one directory"
  21 2010-04-30T18:19:43  <aa_> ok
  22 2010-04-30T18:19:45  <ThomasWaldmann> (moin 1.x apps often needed macros AND actions AND static stuff)
  23 2010-04-30T18:19:52  <aa_> like an instance
  24 2010-04-30T18:21:06  <ThomasWaldmann> a thing to think about (for the poor cgi users) is how to register plugins
  25 2010-04-30T18:21:36  <ThomasWaldmann> or whether to register them or just discover them when needed
  26 2010-04-30T18:22:10  <ThomasWaldmann> if one has lots of plugins, registering them all at application startup could be slow
  27 2010-04-30T18:26:35  <aa_> yes, I see
  28 2010-04-30T18:27:38  <ThomasWaldmann> if you want to see code, it is MoinMoin.macro/parser/action/theme/... in moin 1.x (and similar in 2.0)
  29 2010-04-30T18:27:45  <aa_> zine registers everything on startup
  30 2010-04-30T18:29:54  <aa_> ThomasWaldmann: do you still want to present plugins as macros/parsers/actions ?
  31 2010-04-30T18:31:12  <aa_> or do you want more generic plugins that can do stuff like provide things
  32 2010-04-30T18:31:30  <aa_> e.g. new views, template overrides etc
  33 2010-04-30T18:33:35  <ThomasWaldmann> it should be more generic, but it should be possible to do about the same stuff as before (as a subset)
  34 2010-04-30T18:34:00  <ThomasWaldmann> so if i just want a wiki macro, that of course should work somehow
  35 2010-04-30T18:34:23  <ThomasWaldmann> doesn't need to be fully compatible to 1.x though, because we break stuff all over the place anyway
  36 2010-04-30T18:35:05  <TheSheep> hello
  37 2010-04-30T18:35:11  <ThomasWaldmann> aa_: sorry, but I need to go to shackspace.de now :) I'll maybe have internet there, too, though. :))
  38 2010-04-30T18:35:12  * TheSheep <-- has internet again
  39 2010-04-30T18:35:17  <ThomasWaldmann> hey! :D
  40 2010-04-30T18:35:43  <TheSheep> aa_: You're Ali?
  41 2010-04-30T18:35:56  <ThomasWaldmann> TheSheep: maybe we should discuss with dio and aa_ whether using glashammer makes sense for what dio wants to do.
  42 2010-04-30T18:36:44  * ThomasWaldmann would maybe find some other intersting parts in gh for other stuff also, so it would not be just theme (and maybe plugin), but have potential for more.
  43 2010-04-30T18:37:33  <ThomasWaldmann> aa_: and thanks for offering support with mentoring in case we go gh :)
  44 2010-04-30T18:37:39  * ThomasWaldmann leaves
  45 2010-04-30T18:38:20  <TheSheep> aa_: to be honest I didn't really have time to look at gh's plugins yet
  46 2010-04-30T18:41:55  <aa_> TheSheep: hi, that's cool
  47 2010-04-30T18:42:37  <aa_> TheSheep: I'll lurk here iif you need anything
  48 2010-04-30T19:18:10  <dreimark> and sometimes they need some libs which you have to put into the dir of wikiconfig
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  50 2010-04-30T22:20:31  <ThomasWaldmann> re
  51 2010-04-30T22:24:27  <ei-grad> moin
  52 2010-04-30T23:28:30  <dreimark> re
  53 2010-04-30T23:29:08  <dreimark> ei-grad: can you now access the wiki?
  54 2010-04-30T23:31:51  <dreimark> TheSheep: http://moinmo.in/MoinMoinBugs/HeadingPreviewRendered
  55 2010-04-30T23:31:56  <dreimark> id=preview
  56 2010-04-30T23:34:40  <dreimark> = textcha = everything with an id becomes rendered