1 2010-05-12T05:38:52 *** kursor
2 2010-05-12T06:01:33 *** kursor
3 2010-05-12T07:08:56 *** ronny_
4 2010-05-12T07:10:51 *** ronny
5 2010-05-12T07:14:42 *** ei-grad
6 2010-05-12T10:17:55 <ThomasWaldmann> moin
7 2010-05-12T13:34:26 <ThomasWaldmann> franklin: btw, did my recent change fix the werkzeug 0.6 problems for debian?
8 2010-05-12T13:38:26 <ThomasWaldmann> aa_ dreimark ei-grad TheSheep valeuf waldi xorAxAx - btw. we have 12d left until coding phase starts
9 2010-05-12T13:38:42 <xorAxAx> yep
10 2010-05-12T13:39:03 <ThomasWaldmann> for most projects I still miss more details ideas about what to do when coding starts (aka "a plan")
11 2010-05-12T13:39:04 <xorAxAx> valeuf: are you knowledgable of py.test and hg already?
12 2010-05-12T13:40:00 <xorAxAx> valeuf: i want a short report how you made yourself mfamiliar with the things that ThomasWaldmann listed in the wiki
13 2010-05-12T13:40:08 <ThomasWaldmann> esp. discussions about goals and ways to reach them should happen now. students shall not waste coding time by discussing basic stuff when coding has started.
14 2010-05-12T13:40:26 <xorAxAx> exactly
15 2010-05-12T13:44:47 <ei-grad> moin
16 2010-05-12T13:44:52 <ei-grad> ho... i found why moinmo.in is down some times for me... dns problem, in university we have troubles with dns server (it works on freebsd 4.11 :-) )
17 2010-05-12T13:45:16 <ThomasWaldmann> /etc/hosts :P
18 2010-05-12T13:45:19 <ei-grad> )
19 2010-05-12T13:46:50 <ThomasWaldmann> so what happens exactly with moinmo.in in dns? do you get a wrong IP or none?
20 2010-05-12T13:46:58 <ei-grad> NXDOMAIN
21 2010-05-12T13:47:16 <ei-grad> it is failure in our dns server
22 2010-05-12T13:47:42 <ei-grad> some other domains not resolving too
23 2010-05-12T13:47:44 <ThomasWaldmann> maybe it doesn't like indian stuff
24 2010-05-12T13:48:18 <ThomasWaldmann> ei-grad: your "SOC work machine" is what exactly?
25 2010-05-12T13:49:01 <ei-grad> notebook (celeron 2.2, 2GB RAM)
26 2010-05-12T13:49:56 <ei-grad> *laptop :-)
27 2010-05-12T13:50:00 <ThomasWaldmann> if it is some linux, some default install of bind9 and resolv.conf with "nameserver 127.0.0.1" should help with such issues
28 2010-05-12T13:51:36 <xorAxAx> pdns-recursor is better
29 2010-05-12T13:51:38 <ThomasWaldmann> btw, did you think about ldap/ad test environment?
30 2010-05-12T13:52:12 <dreimark> ei-grad: do you worked on the test ?
31 2010-05-12T14:15:49 <ei-grad> dreimark: no, I have had one exam yesterday, and another would be at saturday. I will write ldap test after the second exam, on May 17-21.
32 2010-05-12T14:16:17 <ei-grad> Also, before coding starts, I need to look into PyKerberos from calendarserver and may be some other libraries (python-krb5 from pypi for example). Library should be fairly common and support all platforms supported by moin. Is something else I missed for kerberos project?
33 2010-05-12T14:18:20 <dreimark> find early the python version dependcy
34 2010-05-12T14:18:40 <dreimark> ei-grad: and also if possible look if those libraries are compatible with macs
35 2010-05-12T14:21:24 <dreimark> ei-grad: please add a simple list with your plans on the wiki page
36 2010-05-12T14:48:33 *** ei-grad
37 2010-05-12T14:51:45 <ThomasWaldmann> btw, dns in germany is currently a bit broken
38 2010-05-12T14:52:29 <ThomasWaldmann> good that we have a .in domain :D
39 2010-05-12T14:54:05 <dreimark> no for us it is bad
40 2010-05-12T14:55:00 <ThomasWaldmann> I mean moinmo.in
41 2010-05-12T14:55:13 * dreimark has no access
42 2010-05-12T14:57:55 <ThomasWaldmann> dig @83.137.100.36 moinmo.in
43 2010-05-12T14:58:16 <ThomasWaldmann> (or anything else you need :)
44 2010-05-12T15:20:01 <dreimark> :)
45 2010-05-12T15:20:13 <waldi> ThomasWaldmann: but the nameservers are in .de, so broken
46 2010-05-12T15:21:25 <dreimark> http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/DNS-Fehler-legen-Domain-de-lahm-999068.html
47 2010-05-12T16:06:10 *** ei-grad
48 2010-05-12T16:26:33 <valeuf> xorAxAx: I am familiar with HG already since I use it for all of my projects since 2 years now
49 2010-05-12T16:26:46 <valeuf> xorAxAx: for py.test, I need to check this more carefully
50 2010-05-12T16:27:44 <valeuf> xorAxAx: I do not work until Monday, so I will get time to write you a small report and continue my list of equivalence, I will also try to start to write some test
51 2010-05-12T16:37:44 <ThomasWaldmann> valeuf: btw, maybe try to write an image converter
52 2010-05-12T16:39:29 <ThomasWaldmann> (you and dmitry will need that anyway sooner or later, we also need it still for the existing markup converters)
53 2010-05-12T16:39:57 <ThomasWaldmann> so it could be used as a common training task :)
54 2010-05-12T16:40:49 *** ei-grad
55 2010-05-12T17:49:22 <valeuf> ThomasWaldmann: image converter ?
56 2010-05-12T17:51:08 <valeuf> ThomasWaldmann: what do you mean ?
57 2010-05-12T19:22:43 <ThomasWaldmann> well, did you try to run moin2? :)
58 2010-05-12T19:45:52 *** kursor
59 2010-05-12T20:34:22 *** kursor
60 2010-05-12T22:18:00 <dreimark> re
61 2010-05-12T23:04:58 <ThomasWaldmann> re
62 2010-05-12T23:08:31 <ThomasWaldmann> TheSheep: btw, i thought over that wrapping/inheritance problem
63 2010-05-12T23:09:02 <ThomasWaldmann> one could use inheritance, but that would create another problem
64 2010-05-12T23:09:37 <ThomasWaldmann> currently, the storage backends are created once, in the configuration
65 2010-05-12T23:09:59 <ThomasWaldmann> backend INSTANCES
66 2010-05-12T23:10:51 <TheSheep> yes
67 2010-05-12T23:10:54 <ThomasWaldmann> if one would want to use inheritance for the acl and indexing middleware, one could not create instances there, but per request
68 2010-05-12T23:11:30 <TheSheep> depends how much info you need to create the acl and indexing backends
69 2010-05-12T23:11:41 <TheSheep> you could create them on startup too
70 2010-05-12T23:12:44 <ThomasWaldmann> acl needs the current user
71 2010-05-12T23:15:03 <TheSheep> but does it need it at startup
72 2010-05-12T23:15:10 <TheSheep> or can you provide it later
73 2010-05-12T23:15:19 <TheSheep> and reuse the same backend for different users
74 2010-05-12T23:16:29 <ThomasWaldmann> hmm, i could modify create_simple_mapping to solve the indexing middleware problem with inheritance
75 2010-05-12T23:26:04 <ThomasWaldmann> ttp://www.denic.de/typo3temp/pics/i_64bbbffdb3.jpg haha
76 2010-05-12T23:26:13 <ThomasWaldmann> +h
77 2010-05-12T23:47:23 <CIA-55> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 8211:78cf38daa5d5 2.0-dev/MoinMoin/wsgiapp.py: remove indexing middleware wrapping from wsgiapp
