1 2010-11-22T00:00:23 <ThomasWaldmann> or just *2.54 :)
2 2010-11-22T00:00:40 <m4k3r> dreimark: yep, done, but previously I had t-shirt sizes as 18"/16" and Google didn't know how to convert it.
3 2010-11-22T00:01:37 <m4k3r> Instead I found pages like "Ten cm dick? How to ...".
4 2010-11-22T00:03:16 <m4k3r> Going to bed. dreimark, ThomasWaldmann, thanks for everything. Bye o/
5 2010-11-22T00:03:27 <ThomasWaldmann> gn :)
6 2010-11-22T00:03:54 <dreimark> gn
7 2010-11-22T00:06:55 *** m4k3r
8 2010-11-22T00:16:59 <ThomasWaldmann> i guess we have to set count of all pushed tasks to -1 now
9 2010-11-22T00:17:21 <dreimark> ok, i start from the end
10 2010-11-22T00:18:41 <ThomasWaldmann> only the ones that were > 0
11 2010-11-22T00:18:47 <ThomasWaldmann> maybe we use just -x
12 2010-11-22T00:21:30 <ThomasWaldmann> 15
13 2010-11-22T00:23:05 <dreimark> ok, then i need to fix -1 (3)
14 2010-11-22T00:25:19 <ThomasWaldmann> done
15 2010-11-22T00:49:47 *** grzywacz
16 2010-11-22T01:23:18 <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: can you try again
17 2010-11-22T01:33:18 <dreimark> sverre means it is fixed, but i have added 1 hour to each field
18 2010-11-22T01:35:12 <dreimark> gn
19 2010-11-22T04:05:56 *** kursor
20 2010-11-22T06:49:46 *** kursor
21 2010-11-22T06:59:29 *** kursor
22 2010-11-22T07:01:42 *** kursor
23 2010-11-22T07:15:22 *** kursor
24 2010-11-22T07:27:36 *** m4k3r
25 2010-11-22T07:56:22 <m4k3r> So an intermap.txt file is just this? http://meatballwiki.org/wiki/InterMapTxt
26 2010-11-22T08:32:06 <dreimark> m4k3r: http://hg.moinmo.in/moin/1.9/file/d70b5147ef0b/wiki/data/intermap.txt
27 2010-11-22T08:32:55 <dreimark> moin
28 2010-11-22T08:32:59 <m4k3r> oh, cool. Seems just few .split(), a startswith() and a with-statment :D
29 2010-11-22T08:35:26 <dreimark> with is 3.x or ?
30 2010-11-22T08:35:37 <m4k3r> from __future__!
31 2010-11-22T08:35:54 <m4k3r> IIRC, moinmoin2.x starts from python 2.6
32 2010-11-22T08:36:37 <m4k3r> from __future__ import with_statement.
33 2010-11-22T08:36:40 <dreimark> ok
34 2010-11-22T08:38:36 <m4k3r> (I assume to have «talked» with you enough to claim the task «write an interwiki map loader»)
35 2010-11-22T08:39:20 * m4k3r spells talked
36 2010-11-22T09:00:42 * dreimark 8:00 UTC
37 2010-11-22T09:09:43 <m4k3r> Yep, but google-melange doesn't work.
38 2010-11-22T09:09:53 <dreimark> try again,
39 2010-11-22T09:10:02 <dreimark> at least i see currently the interface
40 2010-11-22T09:10:09 <m4k3r> I get or HTTP Error 500, or an infinite "loding"
41 2010-11-22T09:10:14 <dreimark> just reload
42 2010-11-22T09:11:00 <TheSheep> overload :D
43 2010-11-22T09:11:01 <m4k3r> Great. Still server error.
44 2010-11-22T09:11:06 <m4k3r> Right.
45 2010-11-22T09:11:12 <TheSheep> don't hit it all together
46 2010-11-22T09:11:20 <TheSheep> give it a chance
47 2010-11-22T09:11:46 *** gwork
48 2010-11-22T09:12:42 <m4k3r> TheSheep: right now I'm thinking "fuck the others, I have to get access NOW."
49 2010-11-22T09:12:57 <TheSheep> learn to *share* :D
50 2010-11-22T09:15:21 <m4k3r> Not today. :D
51 2010-11-22T09:18:42 <m4k3r> dreimark: can you see if anyone succeed in claiming a task?
52 2010-11-22T09:22:27 <dreimark> m4k3r: no one was able yet to claim a task for moin
53 2010-11-22T09:22:34 <m4k3r> lol.
54 2010-11-22T09:35:09 <m4k3r> Still the same errors.
55 2010-11-22T09:35:53 <dreimark> later we know the limit of gae
56 2010-11-22T09:39:16 <m4k3r> dreimark: interwiki map files should just point use http/https , right?
57 2010-11-22T09:39:27 <m4k3r> s/point//
58 2010-11-22T09:39:51 <dreimark> no, it can have any of the schemes defined in config
59 2010-11-22T09:40:26 <m4k3r> So I don't have to worry about them?
60 2010-11-22T09:40:43 <dreimark> http://hg.moinmo.in/moin/1.9/file/d70b5147ef0b/MoinMoin/config/__init__.py#l75
61 2010-11-22T09:40:48 <dreimark> is the default
62 2010-11-22T09:40:58 <dreimark> but a user can have others too
63 2010-11-22T09:41:55 <dreimark> the task is not to verify if the urls exists
64 2010-11-22T10:05:12 <xorAxAx> error 500 ...
65 2010-11-22T10:05:22 <m4k3r> Yep.
66 2010-11-22T10:05:39 <dreimark> overload
67 2010-11-22T10:13:13 <dreimark> http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/list_org_tasks/google/gci2010/moinmoin seems to work
68 2010-11-22T10:14:30 <m4k3r> Not.
69 2010-11-22T10:14:39 <m4k3r> *No, it doesn't.
70 2010-11-22T10:15:02 <m4k3r> "You first need to sign up as an Org Admin or a Mentor."
71 2010-11-22T10:15:33 <dreimark> ok then it is my view but it did not run a 500
72 2010-11-22T10:20:03 <m4k3r> Now gives a 500
73 2010-11-22T10:21:49 <m4k3r> dreimark: anyway, this is the draft for my interwiki.py file. Please tell me if I' missing something (code conventions, features, doc, etc.)
74 2010-11-22T10:21:51 <m4k3r> http://paste.pocoo.org/show/294494/
75 2010-11-22T10:22:52 <dreimark> template http://hg.moinmo.in/moin/2.0-dev/file/5208abaee26d/MoinMoin/_template.py
76 2010-11-22T10:23:30 <dreimark> the problem with the paste bin is, that if one steals that and claims before you did
77 2010-11-22T10:23:43 <m4k3r> Ok - just becouse of my surname, I have to set encoding to utf-8.
78 2010-11-22T10:25:32 <dreimark> please close files, not only by garbage collection.
79 2010-11-22T10:25:56 <m4k3r> I don't think students in this chan would do so, also becouse we know who they are. And I don't think anyone would hang on pocoo to steal tasks for GCI.
80 2010-11-22T10:26:09 <m4k3r> dreimark: AFAIK with does everything.
81 2010-11-22T10:26:21 <m4k3r> dreimark: let me re-check to be sure.
82 2010-11-22T10:26:54 <m4k3r> http://effbot.org/zone/python-with-statement.htm
83 2010-11-22T10:27:00 <m4k3r> Read the last two snippets.
84 2010-11-22T10:29:25 <dreimark> yeah, nice, haven't seen that before
85 2010-11-22T10:31:13 <m4k3r> dreimark: where should be placed this file?
86 2010-11-22T10:31:29 <m4k3r> So, from now I can link to my bitbucket repo.
87 2010-11-22T10:31:53 <m4k3r> And cloning from there become quite simply for you.
88 2010-11-22T10:32:42 <dreimark> e.g. datastruct if you don't find a better place ;)
89 2010-11-22T10:33:17 <dreimark> you need a unit test and some description.
90 2010-11-22T10:34:58 <m4k3r> Yep. i think now I'll write some unittest, and if I have ideas for some useful features, I'll add then.
91 2010-11-22T10:35:05 <dreimark> also an example how to use it in the wikiconfig
92 2010-11-22T10:51:47 *** greg_f
93 2010-11-22T10:57:42 <m4k3r> Still getting the same error :(
94 2010-11-22T11:10:26 <dreimark> we talked at #gsoc. it looks like noone is able to claim currently
95 2010-11-22T11:11:38 <TheSheep> maybe they meant 8:00 PST after all ;)
96 2010-11-22T12:00:29 <dreimark> bbl
97 2010-11-22T12:10:10 <ThomasWaldmann> re
98 2010-11-22T12:18:44 <ThomasWaldmann> m4k3r: btw, not "unittest", but "py.test" please
99 2010-11-22T12:18:58 <m4k3r> Ok lol.
100 2010-11-22T12:20:20 <ThomasWaldmann> can you live with a ascii transliteration of your name?
101 2010-11-22T12:21:54 <m4k3r> Yep, Orru' is ok?
102 2010-11-22T12:22:12 <ThomasWaldmann> yes
103 2010-11-22T12:22:21 <m4k3r> But why don't use utf-8 encoding in.py files?
104 2010-11-22T12:32:54 <ThomasWaldmann> well, we do it, if the source requires it
105 2010-11-22T12:33:26 <ThomasWaldmann> but if it is just one letter in one authors name like Jürgen Hermann, we preferred to put "Juergen Hermann" and stay within ascii.
106 2010-11-22T12:34:11 <ThomasWaldmann> it is becoming a smaller problem all days as utf8 is quite common, but if you edit files on old systems, it might damage those special chars
107 2010-11-22T12:34:27 <ThomasWaldmann> if system/editor encoding is still latin1 or so
108 2010-11-22T12:34:42 <ThomasWaldmann> ascii is completely painless in that respect
109 2010-11-22T12:46:37 <diofeher> good morning!
110 2010-11-22T12:47:05 <ThomasWaldmann> m4k3r: source looks good :) just a few minor things: do you want to use SKIP = '#' because it is kind of a constant?
111 2010-11-22T12:47:12 <ThomasWaldmann> hey dio :)
112 2010-11-22T12:47:34 <diofeher> ThomasWaldmann, hey thomas :D
113 2010-11-22T12:47:52 <diofeher> i'm just finishing my intership report about moin moin and i will come here to help
114 2010-11-22T12:47:59 <diofeher> it's about moin :D
115 2010-11-22T12:48:19 <diofeher> and i have to give to the professor today
116 2010-11-22T12:48:23 <ThomasWaldmann> what internship?
117 2010-11-22T12:51:35 <m4k3r> ThomasWaldmann: can I show the code and tests? (there are still things to add).
118 2010-11-22T12:52:48 <diofeher> ThomasWaldmann, "internship".. it's about gsoc =p
119 2010-11-22T12:57:53 * diofeher bbl
120 2010-11-22T13:18:43 <ThomasWaldmann> m4k3r: sorry, i need to leave now and might be without internet for a while, maybe ask some other mentor and submit it privately
121 2010-11-22T13:18:58 <m4k3r> Yep.
122 2010-11-22T13:23:25 *** aviraldg
123 2010-11-22T13:28:17 <xorAxAx> m4k3r: note the list of mentors of your task
124 2010-11-22T13:28:24 <xorAxAx> everyone of those would like to help you
125 2010-11-22T13:29:12 <m4k3r> oh, cool, then I can query you just for a moment?
126 2010-11-22T13:29:53 <aviraldg> xorAxAx: have all the tasks on the MoinMoin wiki page been confirmed as "final"?
127 2010-11-22T13:30:53 <aviraldg> what release do we work on?
128 2010-11-22T13:31:56 <xorAxAx> m4k3r: yes
129 2010-11-22T13:32:10 <xorAxAx> aviraldg: depends on the task i guess
130 2010-11-22T13:33:08 <xorAxAx> aviraldg: not sure about the final state, and i cant check currently as melange is down
131 2010-11-22T13:33:23 <aviraldg> xorAxAx: same here
132 2010-11-22T13:37:54 <dreimark> aviraldg: look for negative value at count
133 2010-11-22T13:38:07 <aviraldg> ?
134 2010-11-22T13:38:14 <dreimark> those we have submitted and they are open for claiming
135 2010-11-22T13:38:26 <aviraldg> dreimark: thanks
136 2010-11-22T13:38:40 <dreimark> aviraldg: you asked about which tasks where submitted
137 2010-11-22T13:38:58 <aviraldg> dreimark: yep
138 2010-11-22T13:40:24 <dreimark> htg bbl
139 2010-11-22T13:40:47 <aviraldg> ?
140 2010-11-22T13:46:02 <dreimark> have to go - be back later. I have a talk in another building, not sure if i can irc there
141 2010-11-22T13:53:48 <ThomasWaldmann> release is mostly moin/2.0-dev except explicitely noted otherwise as 1.9
142 2010-11-22T13:54:08 <ThomasWaldmann> bugs found on the wiki are mostly about 1.x and also potentially valid
143 2010-11-22T13:54:25 * ThomasWaldmann is away again
144 2010-11-22T13:55:06 <m4k3r> ThomasWaldmann: !
145 2010-11-22T13:55:10 <m4k3r> just a second!
146 2010-11-22T13:58:29 <aviraldg> I have just completed a task ... do I need to wait for Melange to be back online to submit the patch for it?
147 2010-11-22T13:58:44 <m4k3r> Yup.
148 2010-11-22T13:59:09 <m4k3r> Hope it's not mine :D
149 2010-11-22T13:59:24 <aviraldg> ?
150 2010-11-22T13:59:34 <m4k3r> I'm working on a task too.
151 2010-11-22T13:59:38 <aviraldg> which one?
152 2010-11-22T14:00:04 <m4k3r> about interwiki.
153 2010-11-22T14:00:09 <aviraldg> oh
154 2010-11-22T14:53:38 *** aviraldg
155 2010-11-22T14:57:15 *** aviraldg
156 2010-11-22T15:14:40 <aviraldg> are any of the mentors for GCI here?
157 2010-11-22T15:15:28 <xorAxAx> yes
158 2010-11-22T15:15:34 <xorAxAx> see /who
159 2010-11-22T15:15:58 <aviraldg> Alexander Schremmer, Reimar Bauer, Thomas Waldmann, ronny pfannschmidt ... anyone there?
160 2010-11-22T15:16:07 <xorAxAx> grrr
161 2010-11-22T15:16:20 <aviraldg> ?
162 2010-11-22T15:16:26 <xorAxAx> use /who
163 2010-11-22T15:16:29 <aviraldg> oh
164 2010-11-22T15:32:37 <ronny> hi
165 2010-11-22T15:33:03 <ronny> aviraldg: you might want to use the channel instead of brothering single people in query
166 2010-11-22T15:33:16 <TheSheep> it's "bothering"
167 2010-11-22T15:33:25 <aviraldg> sorry
168 2010-11-22T15:33:46 <ronny> TheSheep: woah, i wrote it with r since years, i never noticed
169 2010-11-22T15:34:29 <TheSheep> ronny: sorry, I couldn't resist, not that it matters
170 2010-11-22T15:40:49 <m4k3r> TheSheep, ronny: you don't know anything about moinmoin2.0 wiki for doc?
171 2010-11-22T15:42:52 <TheSheep> m4k3r: I don't understand the question, can you elaborate?
172 2010-11-22T15:44:05 <m4k3r> I have almost completed my task. Since I cannot claim other tasks until this one is done, I am asking this.
173 2010-11-22T15:44:37 <m4k3r> xorAxAx said that I shold add some doc wiki pages about the wiki_map module (that's mine),
174 2010-11-22T15:44:54 <m4k3r> but that it isn't yed ready.
175 2010-11-22T15:46:29 *** kursor
176 2010-11-22T15:47:54 <TheSheep> hmm, I don't know about a master20 wiki :/
177 2010-11-22T15:48:32 <TheSheep> maybe prepare the pages in your local wiki in the mean time, and copy them when it's ready
178 2010-11-22T15:48:53 <TheSheep> ThomasWaldmann: do you know where the moin2 docs pages should go?
179 2010-11-22T15:49:04 <m4k3r> I don't know neither what should I write inside.
180 2010-11-22T15:49:26 <m4k3r> Most of my code has docstrings, and the unittests provides good examples.
181 2010-11-22T15:49:44 <TheSheep> m4k3r: those pages are for users, not developers
182 2010-11-22T15:50:06 *** kursor_
183 2010-11-22T15:50:09 <TheSheep> m4k3r: so you should explain to users how to use the features that you have added
184 2010-11-22T15:50:21 <m4k3r> Users shouldn't be interested in loading interwiki files.
185 2010-11-22T15:50:38 <m4k3r> Or yes? :o
186 2010-11-22T15:50:49 <TheSheep> at least one user per wiki should...
187 2010-11-22T15:51:02 <TheSheep> the one who configures it
188 2010-11-22T15:51:35 <TheSheep> but I don't really know, I didn't take part in creating those tasks
189 2010-11-22T15:53:31 *** kursor
190 2010-11-22T15:53:31 *** kursor_
191 2010-11-22T15:57:31 *** aviraldg_
192 2010-11-22T15:59:00 <dreimark> m4k3r: use the wiki page which is linked from the task
193 2010-11-22T15:59:11 <m4k3r> What?
194 2010-11-22T16:00:16 *** aviraldg_
195 2010-11-22T16:00:26 <dreimark> 15:44 < m4k3r> xorAxAx said that I shold add some doc wiki pages
196 2010-11-22T16:00:41 <dreimark> you asked where, i answered
197 2010-11-22T16:00:44 <dreimark> bbl
198 2010-11-22T16:01:24 <m4k3r> dreimark: bb.
199 2010-11-22T16:04:05 <xorAxAx> sigh, it looks like we org admins/mentors dont get mail notifications for newly claimed tasks
200 2010-11-22T16:05:10 <m4k3r> :o
201 2010-11-22T16:05:29 <m4k3r> I've received an email for your comment.
202 2010-11-22T16:06:10 *** aviraldg_
203 2010-11-22T16:07:23 <aviraldg> xorAxAx: apparently you have to subscribe to receive notifications
204 2010-11-22T16:07:53 <aviraldg> xorAxAx: could I talk to you about a task in private?
205 2010-11-22T16:08:26 <xorAxAx> aviraldg: why dont you want to talk about it here?
206 2010-11-22T16:08:32 <aviraldg> okay
207 2010-11-22T16:08:41 <aviraldg> I've requested a claim on a task
208 2010-11-22T16:08:50 <xorAxAx> you mean i should subscribe to every task manually?
209 2010-11-22T16:08:56 <aviraldg> could you accept it and clarify some doubts that I have
210 2010-11-22T16:08:59 <aviraldg> yeah
211 2010-11-22T16:09:00 <xorAxAx> gah, then i will rather poll the list manually
212 2010-11-22T16:09:06 <aviraldg> according to someone on #melange
213 2010-11-22T16:09:22 <aviraldg> http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/show/google/gci2010/moinmoin/t129037971220
214 2010-11-22T16:10:58 <xorAxAx> ok, i accepter your task. now present your "doubts" :)
215 2010-11-22T16:11:16 <aviraldg> xorAxAx: ty
216 2010-11-22T16:11:28 <aviraldg> the doubts are on the wiki page
217 2010-11-22T16:11:49 <aviraldg> http://moinmo.in/EasyToDo/fix%20the%20logo%20at%20top%20left%20of%20sphinx-generated%20docs
218 2010-11-22T16:14:06 <xorAxAx> i replied on the page
219 2010-11-22T16:18:15 <aviraldg> done
220 2010-11-22T16:18:20 <aviraldg> (kind-of)
221 2010-11-22T16:18:35 <aviraldg> but I'm thinking
222 2010-11-22T16:18:41 <aviraldg> usability wise
223 2010-11-22T16:18:45 <aviraldg> it would make more sense
224 2010-11-22T16:18:58 <aviraldg> to make the logo smaller (the links will move up)
225 2010-11-22T16:19:12 <aviraldg> and add some text to the right which reads "moinmoin"
226 2010-11-22T16:19:22 <aviraldg> xorAxAx: whatsay?
227 2010-11-22T16:19:36 <xorAxAx> makes sense
228 2010-11-22T16:25:49 <aviraldg> how about ... Ubuntu?
229 2010-11-22T16:34:04 *** aviraldg
230 2010-11-22T16:34:12 <xorAxAx> how is it licensed?
231 2010-11-22T16:34:40 <xorAxAx> also i am not sure its wise to use a font that is representing another opensource project
232 2010-11-22T16:35:35 *** aviraldg
233 2010-11-22T16:38:19 <m4k3r> xorAxAx: I don't know anything about moinmoin's wiki syntax, and the page linked don't exist. Can you give me a good&quick formatting guide?
234 2010-11-22T16:38:38 <m4k3r> *(the page liked when editing)
235 2010-11-22T16:39:00 <xorAxAx> m4k3r: see the help pages (starting at HelpContents)
236 2010-11-22T16:39:14 <aviraldg> xorAxAx: is Ubuntu okay for the font?
237 2010-11-22T16:39:56 <xorAxAx> aviraldg: did you read my last 3 messages?
238 2010-11-22T16:40:09 <aviraldg> uh ... I switched computers, so, no
239 2010-11-22T16:40:21 <aviraldg> sorry
240 2010-11-22T16:40:22 <xorAxAx> aviraldg | how about ... Ubuntu?
241 2010-11-22T16:40:24 <xorAxAx> xorAxAx | how is it licensed?
242 2010-11-22T16:40:26 <xorAxAx> xorAxAx | also i am not sure its wise to use a font that is representing another opensource project
243 2010-11-22T16:40:40 <aviraldg> that's the best thing ... the licensing
244 2010-11-22T16:40:53 <aviraldg> it's free for any kind of use (even without attribution)
245 2010-11-22T16:41:06 <aviraldg> that's the main reason I thought of it
246 2010-11-22T16:41:23 <TheSheep> aviraldg: but isn't it a trademark?
247 2010-11-22T16:41:38 <aviraldg> that's just the name of the font
248 2010-11-22T16:42:16 <TheSheep> 1) Each copy of the Font Software must contain the above copyright
249 2010-11-22T16:42:17 <TheSheep> notice and this licence. These can be included either as stand-alone
250 2010-11-22T16:42:17 <TheSheep> text files, human-readable headers or in the appropriate machine-
251 2010-11-22T16:42:17 <TheSheep> readable metadata fields within text or binary files as long as those
252 2010-11-22T16:42:17 <TheSheep> fields can be easily viewed by the user.
253 2010-11-22T16:42:28 <TheSheep> it requires attribution
254 2010-11-22T16:43:05 <aviraldg> but ... you're not distributing the font
255 2010-11-22T16:43:14 <xorAxAx> aviraldg is right
256 2010-11-22T16:43:22 <aviraldg> you're distributing an *image with the font*
257 2010-11-22T16:43:26 <xorAxAx> still i am not sure whether ubuntu would be the best choice
258 2010-11-22T16:43:43 <aviraldg> it's an attempt
259 2010-11-22T16:43:46 <aviraldg> could be changed
260 2010-11-22T16:43:48 <xorAxAx> because ubuntu is using it and we dont want to let people recognize moin as ubuntu :)
261 2010-11-22T16:44:06 <TheSheep> especially since they use it on their wiki
262 2010-11-22T16:44:07 <TheSheep> yeah
263 2010-11-22T16:44:27 <TheSheep> MgOpen Modata is somewhat similar
264 2010-11-22T16:44:32 <aviraldg> hmm... good point
265 2010-11-22T16:44:35 <TheSheep> not sure about specififcs of the license
266 2010-11-22T16:45:28 <TheSheep> You only really need 3 different letter shapes (4 if you want to capitalize it), so maybe drawing the letters by hand isn't such a bad idea
267 2010-11-22T16:46:00 <TheSheep> jus a loose idea, not telling you to do it
268 2010-11-22T16:46:16 <xorAxAx> if it was a cryptography system, we could use my handwriting
269 2010-11-22T16:46:23 <aviraldg> :)
270 2010-11-22T16:47:26 *** kursor_
271 2010-11-22T16:47:56 <aviraldg> http://www.josbuivenga.demon.nl/eula.html
272 2010-11-22T16:48:40 <aviraldg> This font is free for personal and commercial use
273 2010-11-22T16:48:42 <aviraldg> The font file/software may be modified to suit design of system requirements,
274 2010-11-22T16:48:44 <aviraldg> but strictly for your own (personal or commercial) use. You may not sell or distribute it
275 2010-11-22T16:48:46 <aviraldg> Embedding (in PDF's, Flash files and programs) is allowed
276 2010-11-22T16:48:48 <aviraldg> You may use this font for Font-Face embedding, but only if you put a link to www.exljbris.nl on your page and/or put this notice /* A font by Jos Buivenga (exljbris) -> www.exljbris.com */ in your CSS file as near as possible to the piece of code that declares the Font-Face embedding of this font.
277 2010-11-22T16:48:50 <aviraldg> This font may not be distributed or sold -not online nor on any media- without my permission
278 2010-11-22T16:48:52 <aviraldg> This font is and remains (even when modified) the intellectual property of Jos Buivenga
279 2010-11-22T16:48:54 <aviraldg> exljbris Font Foundry is not liable for any damage resulting from the use of this font
280 2010-11-22T16:49:25 *** gwork
281 2010-11-22T16:49:28 *** kursor
282 2010-11-22T16:49:29 *** kursor_
283 2010-11-22T16:51:16 <xorAxAx> well, thats probably fine for the image but incompatible with gpl. so we couldnt ship it
284 2010-11-22T16:54:49 <aviraldg> ... but does the gpl apply to images?
285 2010-11-22T16:55:28 *** kkris
286 2010-11-22T16:55:28 <aviraldg> okay
287 2010-11-22T16:55:30 <aviraldg> done
288 2010-11-22T16:55:35 <aviraldg> wait...
289 2010-11-22T16:55:35 <m4k3r> http://moinmo.in/EasyToDo/write%20a%20interwiki%20file%20(intermap.txt)%20-%3E%20dict%20loader#preview
290 2010-11-22T16:56:02 <m4k3r> Like dreimark said, I've documented here my implementation;
291 2010-11-22T16:56:57 <m4k3r> I am not so good in English, so if someone could check for spelling errors/bad expressions, it would be great.
292 2010-11-22T16:57:12 <aviraldg> xorAxAx: I'm done. Could you have a look at it?
293 2010-11-22T16:58:50 <xorAxAx> m4k3r: looks good. please also ask ThomasWaldmann what he expects wrt documentation
294 2010-11-22T16:59:16 <m4k3r> xorAxAx: Ok, thanks.
295 2010-11-22T16:59:54 <aviraldg> http://imgur.com/pOXGQ
296 2010-11-22T17:00:10 <aviraldg> xorAxAx: http://imgur.com/pOXGQ
297 2010-11-22T17:00:38 <dreimark> m4k3r: documentation should be in rst ready for sphinx
298 2010-11-22T17:01:00 <dreimark> i am still in the office, not much time currently
299 2010-11-22T17:01:04 <m4k3r> dreimark: what? you told me about wiki pages.
300 2010-11-22T17:01:16 <xorAxAx> aviraldg: i think you can capitalize the Ms
301 2010-11-22T17:01:40 <dreimark> m4k3r: ok i look
302 2010-11-22T17:01:59 <dreimark> sorry i was until midday at home waiting for the run
303 2010-11-22T17:02:38 <m4k3r> dreimark: anyway, the text is the same.
304 2010-11-22T17:04:04 <aviraldg> xorAxAx: http://imgur.com/brZNV
305 2010-11-22T17:04:50 <dreimark> m4k3r: ok, if the first is an example for interwikimap config var please use that var.
306 2010-11-22T17:04:54 <dreimark> "some docs for admins showing how to use it from the wikiconfig."
307 2010-11-22T17:05:10 <dreimark> currently it is independant from the wikiconfig
308 2010-11-22T17:05:14 <xorAxAx> aviraldg: a little bit more space right of the logo
309 2010-11-22T17:06:28 <aviraldg> xorAxAx: submitted to Melange
310 2010-11-22T17:06:32 <dreimark> m4k3r: http://hg.moinmo.in/moin/2.0-dev/file/5208abaee26d/wikiconfig.py
311 2010-11-22T17:07:32 <m4k3r> dreimark: "the first" what?
312 2010-11-22T17:08:53 <dreimark> m4k3r: http://moinmo.in/EasyToDo/write%20a%20interwiki%20file%20(intermap.txt)%20-%3E%20dict%20loader#CA-7b29ac306430d946dd80b22933b08390f6405650_2
313 2010-11-22T17:09:21 <dreimark> this example, make it ready for wikiconfig, then i am happy with it
314 2010-11-22T17:09:53 <ronny> what was the groupchat kinda thing you guys always used again?
315 2010-11-22T17:10:06 <dreimark> ronny: mumble
316 2010-11-22T17:10:42 <aa_> mumble is great
317 2010-11-22T17:11:09 <dreimark> next release of bigbluebutton may be also nice
318 2010-11-22T17:11:19 <dreimark> the current has 2secs lag
319 2010-11-22T17:11:41 <m4k3r> dreimark: do you want to edit wikiconfig in order that it loads the wikimap.txt file?
320 2010-11-22T17:12:07 <m4k3r> dreimark: or to write documentation about how to use it with the wikiconfig module?
321 2010-11-22T17:12:21 <ronny> dreimark: i need someone to bring me up2date with my current duties
322 2010-11-22T17:12:41 <dreimark> m4k3r: the task is only about documentation wikiconfig change is a +
323 2010-11-22T17:13:54 <aviraldg> xorAxAx: http://imgur.com/G1vDB.png (fixed spacing issue, submitted to melange, and tested out with sphinx [looks better now])
324 2010-11-22T17:14:21 <xorAxAx> aviraldg: look at your url, the text is white on white :)
325 2010-11-22T17:15:28 <aviraldg> xorAxAx: that's just because it's a transparent png
326 2010-11-22T17:15:40 <xorAxAx> aviraldg: yes :)
327 2010-11-22T17:15:41 <aviraldg> it works on the real doc page
328 2010-11-22T17:16:24 <aviraldg> just pop this image into doc/_static/moinmoin.png
329 2010-11-22T17:16:27 <aviraldg> then make html
330 2010-11-22T17:16:31 <aviraldg> and check it out
331 2010-11-22T17:19:04 <xorAxAx> except when its printed :)
332 2010-11-22T17:19:34 <aviraldg> xorAxAx: http://imgur.com/y3Nnh
333 2010-11-22T17:20:08 <m4k3r> dreimark: got it. I'm putting the example under "DON'T TOUCH THIS EXCEPT IF YOU KNOW WHAT YOU DO "
334 2010-11-22T17:20:29 <aviraldg> xorAxAx: the logo isn't even shown at all in the printed version
335 2010-11-22T17:20:58 <dreimark> m4k3r: :)
336 2010-11-22T17:22:51 <aviraldg> xorAxAx: ... any other changes needed?
337 2010-11-22T17:24:44 <xorAxAx> aviraldg: thomas might have some comments but i am fine with it
338 2010-11-22T17:25:26 <aviraldg> ThomasWaldmann: is the logo okay? http://imgur.com/y3Nnh
339 2010-11-22T17:25:42 <dreimark> aviraldg: reason why not svg?
340 2010-11-22T17:26:05 <aviraldg> IE doesn't support it.
341 2010-11-22T17:26:14 <aviraldg> (it would look nicer, though)
342 2010-11-22T17:26:14 <dreimark> ie9 does
343 2010-11-22T17:26:18 <aviraldg> yeah
344 2010-11-22T17:26:32 <dreimark> we release next year rather at the end
345 2010-11-22T17:26:36 <aviraldg> but the *largest* majority of people still use ie8, ie7 or i6
346 2010-11-22T17:26:47 <aviraldg> prediction: that's not likely to change soon
347 2010-11-22T17:27:04 <aviraldg> since most people who use those versions of IE are forced to do so
348 2010-11-22T17:27:37 <aviraldg> ;)
349 2010-11-22T17:28:46 * xorAxAx is gone
350 2010-11-22T17:29:16 <dreimark> do you have also a svg version
351 2010-11-22T17:30:25 <m4k3r> dreimark: have you got a bitbucket account?
352 2010-11-22T17:30:29 <aviraldg> trivial to make one
353 2010-11-22T17:35:21 <dreimark> m4k3r: yes, sure, since some time
354 2010-11-22T17:35:27 <m4k3r> what is?
355 2010-11-22T17:35:51 <dreimark> my wikiname
356 2010-11-22T17:36:00 <m4k3r> That is?
357 2010-11-22T17:36:50 <m4k3r> Added.
358 2010-11-22T17:37:03 <m4k3r> dreimark: http://bitbucket.org/maker/moin-2.0-dev
359 2010-11-22T17:37:11 <m4k3r> Check finally if everything is ok.
360 2010-11-22T17:38:20 <aviraldg> dreimark: here you go http://www.box.net/shared/aexdgfi5x5
361 2010-11-22T17:38:51 <dreimark> m4k3r: the used var is
362 2010-11-22T17:39:02 <dreimark> iwmap in the config?
363 2010-11-22T17:39:09 <m4k3r> Yep.
364 2010-11-22T17:39:28 <dreimark> do you have checked in config?
365 2010-11-22T17:40:04 <ronny> which mumble server do you use
366 2010-11-22T17:40:15 <m4k3r> dreimark: config == class Config?
367 2010-11-22T17:41:00 <dreimark> mom.
368 2010-11-22T17:41:07 <m4k3r> :S
369 2010-11-22T17:42:06 <aviraldg> ronny: http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/show/google/gci2010/moinmoin/t129037971220
370 2010-11-22T17:42:25 <dreimark> m4k3r: http://hg.moinmo.in/moin/2.0-dev/file/5208abaee26d/MoinMoin/config/default.py#l480
371 2010-11-22T17:42:38 <dreimark> i thought i have posted that in the morning already
372 2010-11-22T17:42:59 <dreimark> use that var otherwise the wiki can't know
373 2010-11-22T17:43:12 <dreimark> ronny: moin has its own
374 2010-11-22T17:44:18 <m4k3r> dreimark: you haven't linked this page before. Ok, replacing the name.
375 2010-11-22T17:46:19 <ronny> dreimark: whats its name/ip?
376 2010-11-22T17:46:48 <m4k3r> dreimark: done.
377 2010-11-22T17:47:07 <aviraldg> dreimark: I have that SVG version done...
378 2010-11-22T17:50:47 <ronny> seems like i cant connect
379 2010-11-22T17:50:56 <ronny> (auth wont work)
380 2010-11-22T17:55:07 <m4k3r> ronny: to me?
381 2010-11-22T17:55:13 <m4k3r> What's you account?
382 2010-11-22T17:55:31 <dreimark> ronny: what do you want to do? ping ThomasWaldmann
383 2010-11-22T17:55:57 <m4k3r> ops, uh.
384 2010-11-22T17:57:17 *** aviraldg_
385 2010-11-22T17:58:35 <m4k3r> dreimark: i have to quit in ~10minutes, is everything ok?
386 2010-11-22T17:59:56 <dreimark> m4k3r: one mom / human parallel processing is bad
387 2010-11-22T18:00:35 <aviraldg> dreimark: ThomasWaldmann isn't responding
388 2010-11-22T18:00:59 <dreimark> aviraldg: yes that was for ronny, he has to wait
389 2010-11-22T18:01:19 <aviraldg> oh
390 2010-11-22T18:01:43 <aviraldg> but even xorAxAx asked me to run it by him
391 2010-11-22T18:02:32 <dreimark> aviraldg: i look in some minutes on it
392 2010-11-22T18:02:48 <aviraldg> dreimark: thanks
393 2010-11-22T18:04:23 <dreimark> m4k3r: ok, in code. fix it on the wiki page too
394 2010-11-22T18:04:57 <m4k3r> The wiki page doesn't mention that.
395 2010-11-22T18:05:24 <dreimark> the wikipage shows the example snippet
396 2010-11-22T18:05:35 <dreimark> one has to incluse, just use the right name
397 2010-11-22T18:05:39 <dreimark> for the var.
398 2010-11-22T18:06:00 <dreimark> s/s/d/
399 2010-11-22T18:08:10 <m4k3r> Done,
400 2010-11-22T18:08:12 <m4k3r> *.
401 2010-11-22T18:08:44 <dreimark> pease upload a bundle of your work to melange then, regarding 6 c of the rules
402 2010-11-22T18:11:59 <aviraldg> dreimark: http://i.imgur.com/y3Nnh.png (screenshot of the logo in place)
403 2010-11-22T18:12:47 <dreimark> aviraldg: :)
404 2010-11-22T18:13:37 <m4k3r> dreimark: Done.
405 2010-11-22T18:14:07 <m4k3r> dreimark: anyway, I suggest you to pull from my repo, not to use the patch.
406 2010-11-22T18:14:17 <dreimark> m4k3r: for us merging from bitbucket is fine or much better than melange
407 2010-11-22T18:14:33 <dreimark> but google wants something in their system to judge
408 2010-11-22T18:14:37 <m4k3r> Yep.
409 2010-11-22T18:15:26 <m4k3r> Is everything ok?
410 2010-11-22T18:15:28 <dreimark> I found a problem with your test
411 2010-11-22T18:15:31 <m4k3r> I have to go.
412 2010-11-22T18:15:35 <dreimark> IOError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'wiki/data/intermap.txt'
413 2010-11-22T18:15:49 <dreimark> invoked from /tmp/moin-2.0-dev/MoinMoin/datastruct/backends/_tests
414 2010-11-22T18:16:26 <dreimark> clone from your repo
415 2010-11-22T18:16:29 <m4k3r> dreimark: Oh, let me use __file__ and split at 'MoinMoin'
416 2010-11-22T18:20:52 <dreimark> just noted it at melange too
417 2010-11-22T18:23:52 <dreimark> aviraldg: ronny mumble works for me
418 2010-11-22T18:24:06 <dreimark> [18:23] Mit Server moinmo.in verbunden.
419 2010-11-22T18:24:29 <m4k3r> dreimark: done.
420 2010-11-22T18:25:09 <dreimark> did you tried?
421 2010-11-22T18:25:16 <aviraldg> ?
422 2010-11-22T18:25:42 <m4k3r> dreimark: yes.
423 2010-11-22T18:25:44 <dreimark> aviraldg: you wasn't asking for mumble?
424 2010-11-22T18:25:52 <aviraldg> what is mumble?
425 2010-11-22T18:25:57 <dreimark> m4k3r: test_wiki_map.py FF.
426 2010-11-22T18:26:25 <dreimark> i switch to an other box
427 2010-11-22T18:26:28 <m4k3r> dreimark: now?
428 2010-11-22T18:26:50 <m4k3r> °_° what error?
429 2010-11-22T18:27:02 <dreimark> > with py.test.raises(ValueError):
430 2010-11-22T18:27:03 <dreimark> E assert ()
431 2010-11-22T18:27:13 <dreimark> likly the py.test version
432 2010-11-22T18:27:58 <aviraldg> dreimark: are you talking about the Voice Chat software called mumble?
433 2010-11-22T18:28:09 <dreimark> yes
434 2010-11-22T18:28:39 <dreimark> 18:01 < aviraldg> but even xorAxAx asked me to run it by him
435 2010-11-22T18:29:02 <aviraldg> hmm ... okay ... ty
436 2010-11-22T18:29:17 <m4k3r> dreimark: you mean it's the py.test version?
437 2010-11-22T18:29:25 <dreimark> may be
438 2010-11-22T18:29:47 <m4k3r> And it's required 1.4?
439 2010-11-22T18:30:06 <m4k3r> *1.3
440 2010-11-22T18:30:17 <m4k3r> I have here 1.3.4.
441 2010-11-22T18:31:15 <dreimark> the one on the machine i have used is older - i take the notebook now
442 2010-11-22T18:32:34 <m4k3r> Tell me if there works - I have to go.
443 2010-11-22T18:33:00 <dreimark> doing, thx so far
444 2010-11-22T18:33:52 <ronny> dreimark: it tells me something about a wrong password
445 2010-11-22T18:34:08 <dreimark> moin
446 2010-11-22T18:34:49 <m4k3r> So, dreimark: should I upload the new patch?
447 2010-11-22T18:36:06 <dreimark> still cloning
448 2010-11-22T18:36:27 <dreimark> ronny: did you get it
449 2010-11-22T18:38:59 <dreimark> m4k3r: 1.3.4 works, yes
450 2010-11-22T18:39:53 <aviraldg> dreimark: what's the mumble server?
451 2010-11-22T18:41:18 *** kursor
452 2010-11-22T18:41:33 <m4k3r> dreimark: so the task is done?
453 2010-11-22T18:44:37 <dreimark> aviraldg: http://moinmo.in/MoinMoinChat
454 2010-11-22T18:44:57 * dreimark is looking
455 2010-11-22T18:46:32 <aviraldg> dreimark: says invalid password
456 2010-11-22T18:47:52 <dreimark> moin#
457 2010-11-22T18:48:00 <dreimark> without the #
458 2010-11-22T18:48:38 <dreimark> aviraldg: ^
459 2010-11-22T18:56:01 <dreimark> aviraldg: is the svg attached somewhere?
460 2010-11-22T18:56:21 <aviraldg> dreimark: no
461 2010-11-22T18:56:25 <aviraldg> do you want it?
462 2010-11-22T18:56:29 <aviraldg> I have:
463 2010-11-22T18:56:34 <dreimark> and also the example of sphinx integration
464 2010-11-22T18:56:34 <aviraldg> SVG (Normal)
465 2010-11-22T18:56:56 <dreimark> yes
466 2010-11-22T18:57:23 <aviraldg> SVG (Inkscape Editable)
467 2010-11-22T18:57:29 <aviraldg> XCF (GIMP)
468 2010-11-22T18:57:38 <aviraldg> PNG (Final)
469 2010-11-22T18:57:42 <aviraldg> PNG (Screenshot)
470 2010-11-22T18:57:46 <aviraldg> which ones do you want
471 2010-11-22T18:57:51 <aviraldg> and how
472 2010-11-22T18:58:16 <dreimark> all
473 2010-11-22T18:58:21 <aviraldg> okay
474 2010-11-22T18:58:35 <dreimark> attach to melange
475 2010-11-22T19:01:26 <aviraldg> okay
476 2010-11-22T19:02:29 <aviraldg> dreimark: done
477 2010-11-22T19:03:10 * dreimark fetches
478 2010-11-22T19:03:29 * aviraldg wonders
479 2010-11-22T19:03:54 <aviraldg> the one used in the screenshot is Moinmoin.png
480 2010-11-22T19:05:28 <dreimark> i like it
481 2010-11-22T19:06:10 <aviraldg> :D
482 2010-11-22T19:06:35 <aviraldg> but it's too ... simple ... the licensing thing prevents me from using my favourite fonts
483 2010-11-22T19:06:35 <dreimark> aviraldg: please add this sentence there too
484 2010-11-22T19:08:09 <dreimark> well licensing is important, if we can't ship it we can't add it
485 2010-11-22T19:08:18 <aviraldg> yeah ... I know
486 2010-11-22T19:08:48 <aviraldg> added
487 2010-11-22T19:12:54 <dreimark> aviraldg: m4k3r you have to fill out some form
488 2010-11-22T19:13:17 <aviraldg> ?
489 2010-11-22T19:13:28 <aviraldg> dreimark: what form?
490 2010-11-22T19:13:36 <dreimark> htg, will be back in some hours
491 2010-11-22T19:14:03 <dreimark> I see AwaitingRegistration
492 2010-11-22T19:14:14 <dreimark> I have accepted your work
493 2010-11-22T19:14:38 <aviraldg> dreimark: ty
494 2010-11-22T19:14:41 <aviraldg> oh
495 2010-11-22T19:35:41 *** greg_f
496 2010-11-22T19:46:08 *** aviraldg
497 2010-11-22T19:46:24 *** aviraldg
498 2010-11-22T20:20:09 *** aviraldg_
499 2010-11-22T20:28:23 *** aviraldg
500 2010-11-22T20:43:08 *** dreimark
501 2010-11-22T20:43:24 *** dreimark
502 2010-11-22T21:04:49 <m4k3r> dreimark: I'll be back in 20 minutes.
503 2010-11-22T21:19:53 <m4k3r> dreimark: !
504 2010-11-22T22:18:03 <dreimark> re
505 2010-11-22T22:21:19 *** dreimark
506 2010-11-22T22:21:19 *** dreimark
507 2010-11-22T22:24:35 <dreimark> m4k3r: ping
508 2010-11-22T22:25:31 <m4k3r> re.
509 2010-11-22T22:25:51 *** nickr5
510 2010-11-22T22:25:51 <m4k3r> Ehi, I've already claimed one task, but tell me what should I do next.
511 2010-11-22T22:29:55 <dreimark> m4k3r: do you know jinja2 / flatland already. if so maybe textcha implementation
512 2010-11-22T22:30:43 <m4k3r> dreimark: I don't know jinja2/flattland, but I'm here to learn.
513 2010-11-22T22:30:45 <dreimark> or reimplement orpahned or wanted items with jinja
514 2010-11-22T22:30:54 <m4k3r> Ok.
515 2010-11-22T22:31:42 <dreimark> http://hg.moinmo.in/moin/2.0-dev/file/5208abaee26d/MoinMoin/templates
516 2010-11-22T22:32:04 <dreimark> jinja2 templates
517 2010-11-22T22:32:17 <m4k3r> What's wrong with them?
518 2010-11-22T22:32:59 <dreimark> nothing, just examples
519 2010-11-22T22:33:09 <dreimark> or the place where the templates lives
520 2010-11-22T22:34:44 <dreimark> e.g. this one needs python and results need for rendering a template http://moinmo.in/EasyToDo/OrphanedItems
521 2010-11-22T22:36:08 * m4k3r saves the link.
522 2010-11-22T22:39:45 <dreimark> http://hg.moinmo.in/moin/2.0-dev/file/5208abaee26d/MoinMoin/items/__init__.py look at ITEMLINKS
523 2010-11-22T22:55:26 <dreimark> xorAxAx: did you talked to the css patch student?
524 2010-11-22T23:13:19 *** kkris
525 2010-11-22T23:19:55 <ThomasWaldmann> re
526 2010-11-22T23:25:49 *** Spreadsheet
527 2010-11-22T23:25:53 <Spreadsheet> Hello
528 2010-11-22T23:37:00 <dreimark> Spreadsheet: if you have questions just ask
529 2010-11-22T23:37:51 <Spreadsheet> I'm waiting to see if a task is open in gogle COde In
530 2010-11-22T23:37:55 <Spreadsheet> *Google Code In
531 2010-11-22T23:38:03 <Spreadsheet> But it is extremely slow
532 2010-11-22T23:38:40 <dreimark> alternativly for looking at tasks you can look at http://moinmo.in/EasyToDo
533 2010-11-22T23:39:12 <dreimark> all tasks with negative count were submitted. but you need to claim on melange,
534 2010-11-22T23:39:22 <dreimark> no guaratee that all claimable there
535 2010-11-22T23:46:13 <Spreadsheet> I'm trying to see if someone has taken the OAuth one, but I can't find out..
536 2010-11-22T23:46:25 <Spreadsheet> I don't know if it has even been submitted
537 2010-11-22T23:47:04 <dreimark> Spreadsheet: is not yet submitted
538 2010-11-22T23:47:09 <Spreadsheet> Ok
539 2010-11-22T23:47:29 <dreimark> we will do later
540 2010-11-22T23:50:40 <ThomasWaldmann> the result of the logo task is a tgz with a bunch of images in it and no description
541 2010-11-22T23:52:04 <dreimark> the description which is used for the screenshot is on melange
542 2010-11-22T23:52:18 <dreimark> The image used in the screenshot is Moinmoin.png (editable: moinmoin.xcf)
543 2010-11-22T23:54:04 <xorAxAx> dreimark: no
544 2010-11-22T23:54:45 <dreimark> xorAxAx: i am not sure but the css looks like moin-1.9
545 2010-11-22T23:57:28 <ThomasWaldmann> what is moinmoin-edit.svg?
546 2010-11-22T23:58:41 <ThomasWaldmann> what is moinmoin.svg?
547 2010-11-22T23:59:11 <ThomasWaldmann> in future, if there is some archive with some stuff, i expect a README in there
