1 2011-01-27T05:19:20 *** kursor
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3 2011-01-27T07:26:28 *** izibi
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5 2011-01-27T08:20:34 *** izibi
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7 2011-01-27T08:51:54 <dreimark> moin
8 2011-01-27T11:08:27 *** greg_f
9 2011-01-27T11:15:51 *** gwork
10 2011-01-27T12:00:43 <ThomasWaldmann> moin
11 2011-01-27T12:41:08 <CIA-65> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 10343:60c71d375334 2.0-dev/ (MoinMoin/templates/base.html wikiconfig.py): svgweb IS still in use, use same method for serving like for other 3rd party stuff
12 2011-01-27T12:41:09 <CIA-65> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 10344:27f075b7f2fe 2.0-dev/MoinMoin/ (2 files in 2 dirs): merged main
13 2011-01-27T13:27:09 <cosmos_thought> moin
14 2011-01-27T13:49:18 <ThomasWaldmann> hey cosmos_thought
15 2011-01-27T14:08:43 *** cosmos_thought
16 2011-01-27T14:10:45 *** cosmos_thought
17 2011-01-27T14:15:01 *** kasun
18 2011-01-27T14:29:44 <kasun> hi devs, I'm interested in MoinMoin for my this year's Google Summer of Code project. Can anyone guide me on where to start and to getting to know about MoinMoin development?
19 2011-01-27T14:30:52 <kasun> I've looked and seems most of the 2010 GSoC ideas were already implemented now. So, I'd like to if there's any new Ideas that I can have a look upon
20 2011-01-27T14:39:19 <xorAxAx> kasun: you can have a look at the feature requests in the wiki
21 2011-01-27T14:39:42 <xorAxAx> its good that you look so early into applying for SOC
22 2011-01-27T14:39:51 <xorAxAx> but we havent brainstormed yet about topics
23 2011-01-27T14:40:20 <kasun> ok, I'll have a look there.
24 2011-01-27T14:41:05 <kasun> I would like to know the general requirements for MoinMoin so that I can improve my skills further.
25 2011-01-27T14:41:48 <kasun> I'd be specially interested in a project related to javascript/css/html as I have more experience on them.
26 2011-01-27T14:42:36 <xorAxAx> do you know python already?
27 2011-01-27T14:42:58 <xorAxAx> nowadays, moin doesnt require the webdesigner to know python anymore
28 2011-01-27T14:43:05 <kasun> sorry, im not much familiar on python
29 2011-01-27T14:43:28 <xorAxAx> so you are locked into webdesign tasks
30 2011-01-27T14:43:33 <xorAxAx> which is a nice thing as well
31 2011-01-27T14:43:33 <kasun> ah that's great :)
32 2011-01-27T14:44:30 <kasun> I can experiment on python as well if it's needed, but I'm afraid how much knowledge will be needed!
33 2011-01-27T14:44:33 <dreimark> kasun: http://moinmo.in/GoogleSoc2011/InitialProjectIdeas
34 2011-01-27T14:46:13 <kasun> thanks dreimark. but seems I don't have access rights yet?
35 2011-01-27T14:47:01 <dreimark> oh, yes, true - that's what xorAxAx was mentioning
36 2011-01-27T14:47:15 <dreimark> we will open that page after the discussion
37 2011-01-27T14:47:31 <dreimark> kasun: do you have worked with template engines already?
38 2011-01-27T14:48:40 <dreimark> e.g. jinja2 / flatland? it is one of the ideas there
39 2011-01-27T14:49:16 <kasun> not quite. But I have worked with DocBook. It was my last year's gsoc project as well.
40 2011-01-27T14:49:34 <dreimark> http://jinja.pocoo.org/
41 2011-01-27T14:50:44 <kasun> Thanks dreimark, I will study it. I have plenty of time till the gsoc starts, So I think I can cover it.
42 2011-01-27T14:51:18 <dreimark> you can look at the wiki at http://test.moinmo.in:8080/Home
43 2011-01-27T14:51:44 <kasun> I'd appreciate if you can tell on what feature of jinja, that this idea will be based on
44 2011-01-27T14:52:42 <dreimark> We use Jinja2 for templating and flatland for form data feeding, extracting, validating.
45 2011-01-27T14:52:45 <dreimark> We need widgets supporting all data types we use for metadata and for user settings.
46 2011-01-27T14:53:23 <dreimark> currently meta is addressed like http://test.moinmo.in:8080/+meta/Home
47 2011-01-27T14:53:42 <dreimark> we want to have a nice ui to edit such data
48 2011-01-27T14:54:12 <dreimark> in meta lots of different key/values can be stored
49 2011-01-27T14:58:16 <kasun> thanks xorAxAx and dreimark . appreciate it. I will go through the direction you've given, and will come here if I have any questions. I hope you wouldn't mind! :)
50 2011-01-27T14:58:32 <dreimark> you are welcome :)
51 2011-01-27T15:06:42 <ThomasWaldmann> re
52 2011-01-27T15:07:00 <ThomasWaldmann> kasun: have a look into mercurial dvcs if you don't know it already
53 2011-01-27T15:07:18 <ThomasWaldmann> it is easy and will be required for all projects
54 2011-01-27T15:11:47 <kasun> ThomasWaldmann, sure. I'm much familiar with SVN, so I guess it won't be a much burden. :) Appreciate any directions given to get in touch with MoinMoin code-base.
55 2011-01-27T15:38:38 <eSyr> moin
56 2011-01-27T15:41:09 <eSyr> ThomasWaldmann: should "Jabber ID" in po changed to XMPP ID (http://xmpp.org/about-xmpp/history/)?
57 2011-01-27T15:53:44 *** kasun
58 2011-01-27T16:12:35 <ThomasWaldmann> eSyr: i am not sure whether that would be helpful from a normal user's perspective
59 2011-01-27T17:01:47 <eSyr> can someone verify edits in http://master19.moinmo.in/4ct10n/info/HelpOnUserPreferences?action=diff&rev2=41&rev1=40 ? I'm not sure about spelling and so. Thanks.
60 2011-01-27T17:15:23 *** gwork
61 2011-01-27T17:15:33 <ThomasWaldmann> eSyr: doing it right now
62 2011-01-27T17:17:05 <ThomasWaldmann> eSyr: (without ability to switch to or use non-preferred in UI) <- really? iirc one could switch inside the editor form to the other one?
63 2011-01-27T17:17:18 *** m4k3r
64 2011-01-27T17:22:33 <ThomasWaldmann> eSyr: http://master19.moinmo.in/4ct10n/info/HelpOnUserPreferences?action=diff&rev2=42&rev1=41
65 2011-01-27T18:13:40 <eSyr> ThomasWaldmann: thanks
66 2011-01-27T18:18:33 <eSyr> ThomasWaldmann: you're right about editor mode switching.
67 2011-01-27T18:18:37 <eSyr> *ability of
68 2011-01-27T18:19:47 <ThomasWaldmann> you fix it?
69 2011-01-27T18:22:03 <ThomasWaldmann> btw, any ideas how to deal with 3rd party files (javascript, java, etc.) aside from just downloading via wget and untarring them in a script?
70 2011-01-27T18:22:31 <ThomasWaldmann> e.g. ckeditor, svgweb, twikidraw, anywikidraw, svg-edit
71 2011-01-27T18:22:55 <ThomasWaldmann> (and without including them into our repo :)
72 2011-01-27T18:24:13 <ThomasWaldmann> for some deployments maybe some linux dist packager might help us by packaging that stuff into packages
73 2011-01-27T18:24:44 <ThomasWaldmann> but won't work on windows, no idea about Mac OS X and maybe not that great for development installs either
74 2011-01-27T18:43:45 <eSyr> ThomasWaldmann: yes
75 2011-01-27T18:52:03 <ThomasWaldmann> bbl
76 2011-01-27T19:20:27 *** greg_f
77 2011-01-27T19:45:37 *** kasun
78 2011-01-27T19:52:55 *** m4k3r
79 2011-01-27T20:18:29 *** m4k3r
80 2011-01-27T21:01:38 *** Trip__
81 2011-01-27T21:05:50 *** Trip_
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83 2011-01-27T21:33:39 *** grzywacz
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85 2011-01-27T21:59:09 *** kasun
86 2011-01-27T22:13:04 *** Trip_
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