MoinMoin: MoinMoinChat/Logs/moin-dev/2011-03-03

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   2 2011-03-03T00:05:22  <CIA-46> Bastian Blank <bblank@thinkmo.de> default * 66:a8d7b3456045 2.0/MoinMoin/converter/html_out.py: HTML output converter - Remove unused base URL
   3 2011-03-03T00:05:24  <CIA-46> Bastian Blank <bblank@thinkmo.de> default * 67:d43c7fb728e0 2.0/MoinMoin/items/__init__.py:
   4 2011-03-03T00:05:24  <CIA-46> Items - Move link converter into output
   5 2011-03-03T00:05:24  <CIA-46> Several parts, including macros, may generate internal links. All the
   6 2011-03-03T00:05:24  <CIA-46> link needs to be done after that.
   7 2011-03-03T00:05:27  <CIA-46> Bastian Blank <bblank@thinkmo.de> default * 65:21cc311e30a8 2.0/MoinMoin/converter/html_out.py: HTML output converter - Use tree support classes
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   9 2011-03-03T00:23:23  <CIA-46> Bastian Blank <bblank@thinkmo.de> default * 68:7a4a72d9e003 2.0/MoinMoin/converter/html_out.py: HTML output converter - De-duplicate header code
  10 2011-03-03T00:39:29  <Trip__> to silence a warning at install, maybe quickinstall needs this line for Babel in the virtualenv?  http://paste.pocoo.org/show/347202/
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  12 2011-03-03T00:41:18  <ThomasWaldmann> MattMaker: babel should be installed by requirement, why is that extra line needed?
  13 2011-03-03T00:49:06  <MattMaker> because setup.py itself uses it
  14 2011-03-03T00:50:14  <MattMaker> and (at least on OS X) you'll get a warning about message_extractors
  15 2011-03-03T00:54:59  <ThomasWaldmann> it does?
  16 2011-03-03T00:55:57  <MattMaker> like so: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/347210/
  17 2011-03-03T00:59:14  <ThomasWaldmann> hmm
  18 2011-03-03T01:04:48  <ThomasWaldmann> install_requires = [ "Babel", ],
  19 2011-03-03T01:04:56  <ThomasWaldmann> can you try if that fixes it also?
  20 2011-03-03T01:09:37  <ThomasWaldmann> or setup_requires?
  21 2011-03-03T01:16:36  <waldi> *GNARGH*
  22 2011-03-03T01:18:03  <waldi> i will revert the html tests. they are not able to check the output
  23 2011-03-03T01:19:08  <ThomasWaldmann> revert to what?
  24 2011-03-03T01:19:16  <waldi> to a working state
  25 2011-03-03T01:23:58  <ThomasWaldmann> did you check with lxml?
  26 2011-03-03T01:25:48  <ThomasWaldmann> btw, when valentin implemented those tests, there were no objections against lxml
  27 2011-03-03T01:26:10  <waldi> there where, massive ones
  28 2011-03-03T01:26:32  <ThomasWaldmann> and emeraltree was tried, but its xpath wasn't complete enough
  29 2011-03-03T01:26:47  <waldi> xpath is not the right tool
  30 2011-03-03T01:26:55  <waldi> it can't do negative checks
  31 2011-03-03T01:27:11  * ThomasWaldmann can't remember "massive ones"
  32 2011-03-03T01:27:21  <waldi> i just replaced complete namespaces and it is not able to detect that change
  33 2011-03-03T01:27:34  <waldi> while the output is completely broken
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  37 2011-03-03T02:17:00  <ThomasWaldmann> parsedatetime apache license v2
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  47 2011-03-03T09:31:06  <waldi> okay. yaml output for emeraldtree ...
  48 2011-03-03T09:49:32  <CIA-46> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 5768:801b80a1ba7f 1.9/MoinMoin/auth/ldap_login.py: ldap_login: assign server early, it is used in exception handler
  49 2011-03-03T10:37:52  <dreimark> moin
  50 2011-03-03T10:38:12  <dreimark> strange i thought i added already that digit... spam url to BC
  51 2011-03-03T10:49:40  <ThomasWaldmann> mercurial is gpl v2 only btw.
  52 2011-03-03T10:54:55  <ronny> ThomasWaldmann: recent mercurial is gpl2+
  53 2011-03-03T10:55:01  <dreimark> 1.8 released
  54 2011-03-03T10:55:34  <dreimark> Performance improvements for reading large repository indexes
  55 2011-03-03T11:03:54  <dreimark> ronny: url?
  56 2011-03-03T11:04:26  <dreimark> ok, found
  57 2011-03-03T11:04:34  <dreimark> http://mercurial.selenic.com/wiki/License
  58 2011-03-03T11:04:36  <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: ^
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  60 2011-03-03T11:04:45  <dreimark> Mercurial as a whole is licensed under GPL version 2 or any later version ("GPLv2+"). This means it is completely free for most uses including redistribution.
  61 2011-03-03T11:05:51  <dreimark> As of Mercurial 1.4.3, the Mercurial license is GPLv2+ and the relicensing process is considered complete.
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  65 2011-03-03T14:04:31  <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: ah, good.
  66 2011-03-03T14:05:43  <ThomasWaldmann> http://mercurial.selenic.com/about/ < there they tell gpl v2.
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  78 2011-03-03T18:46:25  <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: yapsy: looks nice at first, but one looks into the code, one is not so impressed
  79 2011-03-03T18:47:00  <TheSheep> it basically does what moin does already
  80 2011-03-03T18:47:01  <ThomasWaldmann> somehow javaesque coding style, TABs, pep8 fail, thread safety issues
  81 2011-03-03T18:47:17  <ThomasWaldmann> TheSheep: :P
  82 2011-03-03T18:54:03  <dreimark> yeah, looked into the code too, we need to have a fork
  83 2011-03-03T18:54:22  <dreimark> or to improve it for us
  84 2011-03-03T18:54:51  <dreimark> the question is how does it handles a complex plugin with theme extension
  85 2011-03-03T18:55:04  <dreimark> or templates
  86 2011-03-03T18:58:07  <TheSheep> it doesn't
  87 2011-03-03T18:58:12  <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: a bit of a pity, but a rewrite looks maybe easier than fixing it
  88 2011-03-03T18:58:33  <TheSheep> I'm still thinking about flask modulews
  89 2011-03-03T18:58:40  <TheSheep> flask modules as plugins
  90 2011-03-03T18:59:18  <ThomasWaldmann> TheSheep: macros and converters?
  91 2011-03-03T18:59:44  <ThomasWaldmann> i mean they are completely unrelated to flask
  92 2011-03-03T19:00:14  <TheSheep> ThomasWaldmann: they may need templates
  93 2011-03-03T19:00:31  <TheSheep> ThomasWaldmann: and flask modules already give you template loading mechanisms
  94 2011-03-03T19:00:42  <TheSheep> ThomasWaldmann: and static file serving
  95 2011-03-03T19:02:34  <dreimark> htg bbl
  96 2011-03-03T19:03:34  <ThomasWaldmann> hmm, don't see where templates and static files fit into the moin dom tree
  97 2011-03-03T19:04:44  <TheSheep> well, you need static files if you want icons and such
  98 2011-03-03T19:05:03  <TheSheep> templates maybe not -- I forgot about the dom tree
  99 2011-03-03T19:05:29  <TheSheep> (though you might need custom pieces for the theme)
 100 2011-03-03T19:05:54  <TheSheep> like adding some link in the user interface or something
 101 2011-03-03T19:09:26  <TheSheep> (also, macro might just add a single custom element to the dom and have it rendered with a template)
 102 2011-03-03T19:09:53  <TheSheep> things like youtube videos
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 106 2011-03-03T21:41:55  <Trip_> ThomasWaldmann I tested several different ways of changing setup.py, using setup_requires seems to be the correct option:  http://paste.pocoo.org/show/347660/
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 108 2011-03-03T21:43:20  <MattMaker> adding to install_requires is too late to silence the warning, and Babel is included there already by Flask-Babel
 109 2011-03-03T21:44:03  <MattMaker> there is one side-effect: using setup_requires leaves a copy of the Babel egg in the root folder.
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 113 2011-03-03T23:08:16  <dreimark> re
 114 2011-03-03T23:09:46  <dreimark> TheSheep: ThomasWaldmann  we need also something like similiar to those class type plugins
 115 2011-03-03T23:10:01  <dreimark> you want to extens items and other classes
 116 2011-03-03T23:13:32  <dreimark> MattMaker: which irc client do you use? I ask because in irssi you can configure your nick
 117 2011-03-03T23:14:12  <MattMaker> I use Colloquy, and it seems to have a wrong idea about what my nick is, but no obvious place to set it
 118 2011-03-03T23:17:34  <dreimark> http://www.freesmug.org/tutorial:colloquy
 119 2011-03-03T23:17:48  <dreimark> that looks like it can be set - at least it promises it
 120 2011-03-03T23:18:17  <dreimark> on irssi if i don't set one it tries my login name
 121 2011-03-03T23:22:16  <MattMaker> ah, so with Colloquy I need to disconnect and create the connection anew, in order to get that dialog where I can set the nick
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 124 2011-03-03T23:26:16  <MattMaker> excellent, I think I got it
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 127 2011-03-03T23:33:44  <dreimark> seems to work :)