1 2011-03-19T00:33:03  <sinha_> ThomasWaldmann: i have downloaded the package and an virtual environment is created..but there is no script named moin on home directory from which i can start the server ?
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   3 2011-03-19T01:00:01  <ThomasWaldmann> well, it is in teh path :P
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  15 2011-03-19T07:56:32  <dreimark> moin
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  21 2011-03-19T09:36:51  <sl33k_> is this appropriate cmd for checking out moin1.9 hg clone http://hg.moinmo.in/moin/1.9 moin1.9 ?
  22 2011-03-19T09:47:25  <dreimark> sl33k_: yes - why do you ask?
  23 2011-03-19T09:48:36  <sl33k_> dreimark: it does not check out anything
  24 2011-03-19T09:48:47  <dreimark> it takes long
  25 2011-03-19T09:48:55  <dreimark> because it checks out 250MB
  26 2011-03-19T09:51:25  <dreimark> moin-2 is much easier to clone because of http://hg.moinmo.in/moin/2.0/rev/5568cf133caf
  27 2011-03-19T09:54:05  <sl33k_> dreimark: i have moin2. do i update my copy?
  28 2011-03-19T09:54:16  <dreimark> hg pull -u
  29 2011-03-19T09:54:27  <dreimark> did the update
  30 2011-03-19T09:55:53  <dreimark> sl33k_: what is the goal? hacking or moin? gsoc?
  31 2011-03-19T09:56:05  <dreimark> s/or/on/
  32 2011-03-19T09:56:22  <sl33k_> dreimark: gsoc
  33 2011-03-19T09:56:48  <sl33k_> i am looking to fix a couple of bugs
  34 2011-03-19T09:57:14  <sl33k_> dreimark: are there any trivial bugs to be fixed on 1.9
  35 2011-03-19T10:13:53  <dreimark> sl33k_: fix something in moin-2
  36 2011-03-19T10:14:19  <dreimark> sl33k_: there will be no work on moin-1.9 for gsoc
  37 2011-03-19T10:14:56  <dreimark> and it makes sense to get familiar with 2.0
  38 2011-03-19T10:15:32  <dreimark> http://moinmo.in/EasyToDo
  39 2011-03-19T10:17:01  <sl33k_> dreimark: are they trivial
  40 2011-03-19T10:17:37  <dreimark> depends how you define trivial
  41 2011-03-19T10:19:48  <sl33k_> do they require some hours? or do they require some days?
  42 2011-03-19T10:20:10  <dreimark> sl33k_: easy: create a new view for getting all items a user has contributed too
  43 2011-03-19T10:20:30  <dreimark> I think that takes not too long
  44 2011-03-19T10:20:47  <dreimark> and there already some comparable views available
  45 2011-03-19T10:21:23  <dreimark> you need to use meta data, jinja and python
  46 2011-03-19T10:21:41  <sl33k_> which task number?
  47 2011-03-19T10:21:51  <dreimark> it is on the page
  48 2011-03-19T10:22:26  <dreimark> last task of "Code - UI related CODING (see also UserInterface)"
  49 2011-03-19T10:23:05  <sl33k_> ya
  50 2011-03-19T10:25:22  <dreimark> it is something similiar to orphans http://hg.moinmo.in/moin/2.0/file/4408881ee6e3/MoinMoin/apps/frontend/views.py#l611
  51 2011-03-19T10:25:39  <dreimark> for templating etc.
  52 2011-03-19T10:27:13  <dreimark> bbl
  53 2011-03-19T10:28:46  <sl33k_> looks cool
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  58 2011-03-19T10:47:49  <sinha_> i did a installation of moin2.0 and started the env..but when i do ./moin its not finding that script ? so where it might me ..help me i am not able to install this new version to test
  59 2011-03-19T11:09:38  <dreimark> sl33k_: go to top level dir
  60 2011-03-19T11:09:42  <dreimark> sorry
  61 2011-03-19T11:09:53  <dreimark> sinha_: go to top level dir
  62 2011-03-19T11:09:57  <dreimark> and call moin
  63 2011-03-19T11:10:05  <dreimark> not ./moin in bin
  64 2011-03-19T11:10:26  <sinha_> dreimark : yes i am in top level directory
  65 2011-03-19T11:10:33  <dreimark> moin there
  66 2011-03-19T11:10:36  <sinha_> dreimark : i have started that virtualenv
  67 2011-03-19T11:10:40  <dreimark> yes
  68 2011-03-19T11:10:42  <sinha_> dreimark : no
  69 2011-03-19T11:10:44  <dreimark> and then type moin
  70 2011-03-19T11:11:11  <dreimark> ~/workspace/moin-2.0$ moin
  71 2011-03-19T11:11:16  <dreimark> is it for me
  72 2011-03-19T11:11:24  <sinha_> its saying not  there ..want to install
  73 2011-03-19T11:11:41  <sinha_> should i do yes for installation
  74 2011-03-19T11:11:45  <dreimark> pastebin please
  75 2011-03-19T11:12:03  <dreimark> what installation?
  76 2011-03-19T11:12:14  <sinha_> http://paste.pocoo.org/show/355966/
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  78 2011-03-19T11:13:45  <dreimark> don't install the debian package
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  80 2011-03-19T11:14:10  <dreimark> sinha_: don't install the debian package
  81 2011-03-19T11:14:21  <sinha_> i am on fedora
  82 2011-03-19T11:14:38  <dreimark> well then don't install the fedora package
  83 2011-03-19T11:14:51  <sinha_> thank quickinstall program is supposed to create that script right ?
  84 2011-03-19T11:14:55  <sinha_> *that
  85 2011-03-19T11:14:56  <dreimark> yes
  86 2011-03-19T11:15:03  <sinha_> but that isnt happening
  87 2011-03-19T11:15:12  <sinha_> i ran it thrice
  88 2011-03-19T11:15:20  <dreimark> sinha_: which python version do you use?
  89 2011-03-19T11:15:43  <sinha_> python 2.7
  90 2011-03-19T11:16:15  <dreimark> show me the complete line of the terminal where you invoke the moin command
  91 2011-03-19T11:16:50  <dreimark> sinha_: ^
  92 2011-03-19T11:18:17  <sinha_> this is coming : moin bash: moin: command not found... Install package 'moin' to provide command 'moin'? [N/y]   "
  93 2011-03-19T11:18:50  <sinha_> i have downloaded the package using hg repo..not from the web
  94 2011-03-19T11:18:53  <dreimark> sinha_: the line starts with (env)
  95 2011-03-19T11:18:57  <dreimark> please show it
  96 2011-03-19T11:20:04  <sinha_> all i am doing "[akash@My-Box moin2]$ source env/bin/activate (env)[akash@My-Box moin2]$ ./moin bash: ./moin: No such file or directory (env)[akash@My-Box moin2]$ moin bash: moin: command not found... Install package 'moin' to provide command 'moin'? [N/y]   "
  97 2011-03-19T11:20:24  <sinha_> env is getting activated
  98 2011-03-19T11:20:46  <xorAxAx> sinha_: did you install moin in the env?
  99 2011-03-19T11:20:59  <dreimark> sinha_: do you have run quickinstall ?
 100 2011-03-19T11:21:09  <sinha_> yes i just ran ./quickinstall
 101 2011-03-19T11:22:31  <dreimark> and what was its output?
 102 2011-03-19T11:23:35  <sinha_> it installed everything..and downloaded lots of packages and created that env directory
 103 2011-03-19T11:24:52  <sinha_> now i have a fresh package tell me how to start..
 104 2011-03-19T11:25:10  <sinha_> i got it from here hg clone http://hg.moinmo.in/moin/2.0 moin2
 105 2011-03-19T11:26:04  <sinha_> dreimark: want to start one more time..
 106 2011-03-19T11:26:11  <dreimark> moment
 107 2011-03-19T11:26:25  <dreimark> i do an example  currently
 108 2011-03-19T11:28:11  <dreimark> sinha_: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/355971/
 109 2011-03-19T11:28:14  <dreimark> try this
 110 2011-03-19T11:28:33  <dreimark> of course you don't need to have it in /tmp
 111 2011-03-19T11:29:42  <dreimark> and log quickinstall output
 112 2011-03-19T11:29:45  <sinha_> dreimark: should do in quickinstall in root mode ?
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 114 2011-03-19T11:30:28  <dreimark> sinha_: in root mode?
 115 2011-03-19T11:30:32  <dreimark> you work as root ?
 116 2011-03-19T11:30:45  <dreimark> you have to work as user !
 117 2011-03-19T11:31:03  <sinha_> dreimark: no..but i am just asking.. should run quickinstall in root mode or not ?
 118 2011-03-19T11:31:13  <dreimark> you do everything as user
 119 2011-03-19T11:31:18  <dreimark> nothing as root
 120 2011-03-19T11:32:10  <dreimark> virtualenv makes it possible to install on user level
 121 2011-03-19T11:32:23  <sinha_> dreimark:http://paste.pocoo.org/show/355972/ this error is coming
 122 2011-03-19T11:33:10  <dreimark> sinha_: is this my example?
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 124 2011-03-19T11:33:19  <dreimark> sinha_: as user?
 125 2011-03-19T11:33:24  <dreimark> not root
 126 2011-03-19T11:33:26  <sinha_> dreimark:yes as user
 127 2011-03-19T11:33:39  <dreimark> and /tmp dir ?
 128 2011-03-19T11:33:46  <dreimark> just for  trying it
 129 2011-03-19T11:33:48  <sinha_> dreimark:no in my home directory
 130 2011-03-19T11:34:02  <dreimark> i guess you have used the same dir as before
 131 2011-03-19T11:34:07  <dreimark> without rm -r it
 132 2011-03-19T11:34:24  <sinha_> dreimark: no i deleted the earlier one..if you want i will do it once again
 133 2011-03-19T11:35:37  <dreimark> sinha_: can you try my example
 134 2011-03-19T11:35:52  <dreimark> because i did it few minutes ago on ubuntu 10.10
 135 2011-03-19T11:36:04  <dreimark> and if there is a difference to fedora we should find it
 136 2011-03-19T11:36:36  <sinha_> dreimark:now quickinstall is working in user mode..its doing some Downloading/unpacking
 137 2011-03-19T11:38:06  <dreimark> ok
 138 2011-03-19T11:38:36  <dreimark> then find out what the reason is that you can't do it in your homedir
 139 2011-03-19T11:40:12  <sinha_> dreimark: i guess downloaded the package in root mode..silly me
 140 2011-03-19T11:41:03  <dreimark> ah, ok
 141 2011-03-19T11:42:40  <dreimark> htg, bbl
 142 2011-03-19T12:00:00  <sinha_> dreimark: Installation completed..but again same problem..(env)[akash@My-Box mymoin]$ moin bash: moin: command not found...
 143 2011-03-19T12:00:30  <sinha_> dreimark: moin script is not there
 144 2011-03-19T12:05:26  <sinha_> Do i need to install the package "moin"
 145 2011-03-19T12:05:36  <sinha_> because otherwise nothing is happening
 146 2011-03-19T12:11:08  <xorAxAx> try rehash
 147 2011-03-19T12:11:36  <xorAxAx> hash -r
 148 2011-03-19T12:34:26  <sinha_> hash -r in the moin home directory
 149 2011-03-19T12:39:21  <sinha_> xorAxAx: hash -r in home directory
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 152 2011-03-19T13:05:36  <xorAxAx> yes
 153 2011-03-19T13:13:37  <sinha_> xorAxAx: hash -r isn't doing anything
 154 2011-03-19T13:13:50  <sinha_> xorAxAx: do i need to install  moin package
 155 2011-03-19T13:14:02  <sinha_> xorAxAx: because there is no such script generating
 156 2011-03-19T13:22:23  <sinha_> xorAxAx: i am stuck on this for hours :(
 157 2011-03-19T13:26:04  <xorAxAx> sinha_: no, the moin package wont help you
 158 2011-03-19T13:26:40  <sinha_> xorAxAx: what should i do ..can i download that moin script from somewhere
 159 2011-03-19T13:27:17  <sinha_> xorAxAx: i have tried doing quickinstall 5 times in 5 different directory..but nowhere that moin script is being generated
 160 2011-03-19T13:31:00  <xorAxAx> sinha_: what does find | grep moin give you?
 161 2011-03-19T13:31:17  <xorAxAx> sinha_: well, pastebin the output of the quickinstall script
 162 2011-03-19T13:32:02  <sinha_> xorAxAx: find: `moin': No such file or directory ..
 163 2011-03-19T13:32:09  <xorAxAx> ???
 164 2011-03-19T13:32:36  <xorAxAx> that error message doesnt match my command
 165 2011-03-19T13:33:49  <sinha_> xorAxAx: i am getting the log of quickinstall..pasting in few secs
 166 2011-03-19T13:36:13  <sinha_> xorAxAx: output of grep http://paste.pocoo.org/show/356025/
 167 2011-03-19T13:36:42  <xorAxAx> sinha_: i said "find | grep moin"
 168 2011-03-19T13:36:44  <xorAxAx> grrr
 169 2011-03-19T13:39:19  <sinha_> xorAxAx: sry this is output fro find | grep moin  http://paste.pocoo.org/show/356026/
 170 2011-03-19T13:40:03  <xorAxAx> indeed, the script is missing
 171 2011-03-19T13:40:19  <xorAxAx> now i am awaiting the quickinstall log
 172 2011-03-19T13:45:22  <sinha_> xorAxAx: this is the quickinstall log http://paste.pocoo.org/show/356028/
 173 2011-03-19T13:48:42  <dreimark> re
 174 2011-03-19T13:57:19  <dreimark> sinha_: you have seen the traceback?
 175 2011-03-19T13:58:04  <sinha_> dreimark: traceback means ?
 176 2011-03-19T13:59:01  <ThomasWaldmann> moin
 177 2011-03-19T14:00:53  <dreimark> look at your pastebin line 2434
 178 2011-03-19T14:03:37  <sinha_> dreimark: yes someother files also got donwloaded..which didnt go to log and flushed on my terminal.. they were like that Downlaoding xyz and then 100% complete=====================
 179 2011-03-19T14:03:48  <dreimark> it looks to me that after or while downloading Werkzeug-0.6.2.tar.gz y
 180 2011-03-19T14:03:57  <dreimark> you got a problem
 181 2011-03-19T14:04:12  <dreimark> http://hg.moinmo.in/moin/2.0/file/4408881ee6e3/setup.py#l76
 182 2011-03-19T14:04:29  <dreimark> if you look at install_requires
 183 2011-03-19T14:04:51  <dreimark> you can try to manually install them into your virtualenv environment
 184 2011-03-19T14:05:15  <sinha_> dreimark: how to install them in virtual env
 185 2011-03-19T14:05:44  <dreimark> look into http://hg.moinmo.in/moin/2.0/file/4408881ee6e3/quickinstall
 186 2011-03-19T14:06:22  <dreimark> you can try to continue at the point where you got the timeout
 187 2011-03-19T14:06:25  <dreimark> just type
 188 2011-03-19T14:06:27  <dreimark>  pip install -e .
 189 2011-03-19T14:07:07  <ThomasWaldmann> sinha_: btw, the moin script is in env/bin/moin after quickinstall run, at least for me
 190 2011-03-19T14:08:30  <sinha_> ThomasWaldmann: i have got this many files in env/bin activate  activate.csh  activate.fish  activate_this.py  easy_install  easy_install-2.7  pip  pip-2.7  python
 191 2011-03-19T14:08:31  <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: 13:39 < sinha_> xorAxAx: sry this is output fro find | grep moin   http://paste.pocoo.org/show/356026/
 192 2011-03-19T14:09:09  <dreimark> sinha_: did you called pip install -e .
 193 2011-03-19T14:09:13  <dreimark> ?
 194 2011-03-19T14:09:19  <dreimark> again ?
 195 2011-03-19T14:09:45  <sinha_> dreimark: it syas command not found
 196 2011-03-19T14:09:47  <sinha_> *says
 197 2011-03-19T14:10:08  <dreimark> your virtualenv is activated ?
 198 2011-03-19T14:10:38  <dreimark> source env/bin/activate
 199 2011-03-19T14:10:40  <sinha_> dreimark: sage: /tmp/moin-2/env/bin/pip install [OPTIONS] PACKAGE_NAMES...  /tmp/moin-2/env/bin/pip install: error: -e option requires an argument
 200 2011-03-19T14:10:55  <sinha_> dreimark: its asking for argument
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 202 2011-03-19T14:11:14  <dreimark> in which path do you be?
 203 2011-03-19T14:11:46  <dreimark> cd /tmp/moin-2
 204 2011-03-19T14:11:46  <sinha_> dreimark: in top directory /tmp/moin-2
 205 2011-03-19T14:11:54  <dreimark> source env/bin/activate
 206 2011-03-19T14:12:22  <sinha_> dreimark: yes it is activated
 207 2011-03-19T14:12:31  <sinha_> dreimark: yet that error is coming
 208 2011-03-19T14:12:39  <dreimark> pip install -e .
 209 2011-03-19T14:12:39  <sinha_> dreimark: (env)[akash@My-Box moin-2]$ pip install -e  Usage: /tmp/moin-2/env/bin/pip install [OPTIONS] PACKAGE_NAMES...  /tmp/moin-2/env/bin/pip install: error: -e option requires an argument (env)[akash@My-Box moin-2]$
 210 2011-03-19T14:12:50  <dreimark> look at the line
 211 2011-03-19T14:12:56  <dreimark> you did not copied it
 212 2011-03-19T14:13:20  <dreimark> http://hg.moinmo.in/moin/2.0/file/4408881ee6e3/quickinstall#l7
 213 2011-03-19T14:14:01  <sinha_> dreimark: i just ran pip install -e and it throws this error
 214 2011-03-19T14:14:33  <dreimark> read the line by each character
 215 2011-03-19T14:14:42  <sinha_> dreimark: its running..
 216 2011-03-19T14:15:05  <ThomasWaldmann> btw, you can't easily move a virtualenv after it was created, so maybe choose a better place for it than /tmp
 217 2011-03-19T14:15:16  <dreimark> he trains that
 218 2011-03-19T14:15:17  <sinha_> dreimark: its downlading some package
 219 2011-03-19T14:15:22  <dreimark> that was my suggestion
 220 2011-03-19T14:16:18  <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: because at that time i haven't figured that he was using the root account
 221 2011-03-19T14:17:12  <dreimark> sinha_: if that works you have to redo this on your homedir
 222 2011-03-19T14:17:19  <dreimark> later
 223 2011-03-19T14:17:39  <ThomasWaldmann> sinha_: btw, if the problems you are having are caused by wrong documentation, I'ld like to know what was wrong.
 224 2011-03-19T14:18:07  <sinha_> dreimark: this exception came http://paste.pocoo.org/show/356038/
 225 2011-03-19T14:18:11  <ThomasWaldmann> (wrong or missing)
 226 2011-03-19T14:18:35  <sinha_> ThomasWaldmann: i followed this link http://static.moinmo.in/m2/html/admin/install.html#downloading
 227 2011-03-19T14:19:00  <dreimark> sinha_: /home/akash/.pip/pip.log
 228 2011-03-19T14:19:30  <MattMaker> (hmm, maybe quickinstall should react to pip failing)
 229 2011-03-19T14:19:49  <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: why could be there with fedora a problem with werkzeug
 230 2011-03-19T14:19:57  <dreimark> it works with ubuntu 10.10
 231 2011-03-19T14:20:29  <dreimark> sinha_: try pip install Werkzeug
 232 2011-03-19T14:20:41  <sinha_> dreimark: this is pip log http://paste.pocoo.org/show/356039/
 233 2011-03-19T14:20:48  <dreimark> I want to see which version is compatible to your intallation
 234 2011-03-19T14:20:55  <ThomasWaldmann> MattMaker: yes, or first do the static stuff, to breakage later is better visible
 235 2011-03-19T14:21:05  <ThomasWaldmann> s/to/so/
 236 2011-03-19T14:21:15  <MattMaker> yes
 237 2011-03-19T14:21:21  * ThomasWaldmann changes that
 238 2011-03-19T14:21:51  <sinha_> dreimark:  Downloading Werkzeug-0.6.2.tar.gz (1.7Mb):   7%
 239 2011-03-19T14:22:01  <dreimark> ok, lets see if that works
 240 2011-03-19T14:22:14  <dreimark> it looks to me like that you run into a timeout
 241 2011-03-19T14:22:31  <dreimark> if you have the tar.gz you can install it from the file too
 242 2011-03-19T14:23:18  <MattMaker> dreimark I wonder if the correct pip is being run, maybe the pythonpath is weird?
 243 2011-03-19T14:23:32  <dreimark> it is in virtualenv
 244 2011-03-19T14:23:46  <sinha_> dreimark: pip is doing "(env)[akash@My-Box moin-2]$ pip install Werkzeug Downloading/unpacking Werkzeug " i guess it will unpack that
 245 2011-03-19T14:24:04  <dreimark> lests see if it finishes
 246 2011-03-19T14:24:36  <dreimark> where is ronny ?
 247 2011-03-19T14:24:39  <MattMaker> is everything okay in python 2.7? I have only tried 2.6
 248 2011-03-19T14:24:41  <sinha_> dreimark: again same Exception : and tracebacl
 249 2011-03-19T14:24:44  <sinha_> *traceback
 250 2011-03-19T14:25:51  <dreimark> MattMaker: good question, me runs here 2.6.6
 251 2011-03-19T14:25:52  <sinha_> dreimark: error from line 227 at this link http://paste.pocoo.org/show/356039/
 252 2011-03-19T14:27:26  <ThomasWaldmann> MattMaker: I guess i also add a pip install babel
 253 2011-03-19T14:27:40  <ThomasWaldmann> before it runs pip install -e .
 254 2011-03-19T14:27:55  <MattMaker> sinha_ does that package that is erroring download successfully if you do:
 255 2011-03-19T14:27:57  <MattMaker> wget http://pypi.python.org/packages/source/W/Werkzeug/Werkzeug-0.6.2.tar.gz#md5=519408350346a247333bb5d584371724
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 258 2011-03-19T14:29:01  <dreimark> if you have it try pip install Werkzeug-0.6.2.tar.gz
 259 2011-03-19T14:29:02  <MattMaker> ThomasWaldmann you remember my fix for that one that didn't work on your machine, so yes pip install babel by itself should work for everyone, if we must
 260 2011-03-19T14:31:14  <CIA-58> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 128:b0cd58f89c3f 2.0/quickinstall: quickinstall: first do the static stuff, so pip/setup.py failures are better visible. install babel before trying to install moin.
 261 2011-03-19T14:31:35  <sinha_> MattMaker: Downloading...
 262 2011-03-19T14:31:57  <ThomasWaldmann> sinha_: hg pull -u
 263 2011-03-19T14:32:58  <ThomasWaldmann> MattMaker: yes, i do. i also tried some stuff, but somehow nothing worked as expected. so we do it the manual, but safe way.
 264 2011-03-19T14:33:35  <dreimark> http://www.mail-archive.com/package-announce@lists.fedoraproject.org/msg14715.html
 265 2011-03-19T14:33:49  <dreimark> tells principle it runs with fedora
 266 2011-03-19T14:34:24  <MattMaker> ThomasWaldmann I guess it is easier to understand, too, instead of getting complicated in setup.py :)
 267 2011-03-19T14:35:11  <ThomasWaldmann> well, in the end, we should have a working setup.py and not require that quickinstall any more
 268 2011-03-19T14:35:36  <ThomasWaldmann> but as long as we have it (due to no static file packages), we can do such hacks
 269 2011-03-19T14:36:59  <MattMaker> but the setup.py (or the pip requirements.txt) will still need to support a "development" install? or that will still be ./quickinstall
 270 2011-03-19T14:37:52  <ErSame> sinha_, what version of virtualenv do you have?
 271 2011-03-19T14:38:22  <ErSame> I had some troubles with virtualenv 1.4.5, I had to download 1.5.2
 272 2011-03-19T14:38:26  <dreimark> sinha_: pip install Werkzeug-0.6.2.tar.gz tells what ?
 273 2011-03-19T14:39:03  <sinha_> ErSame: its 1.5.1
 274 2011-03-19T14:39:13  <sinha_> dreimark its still downloading the tar.gz file
 275 2011-03-19T14:40:22  <dreimark> ah good, then may be you have not been able to download it before
 276 2011-03-19T14:40:24  <CIA-58> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 129:2f7c87352b99 2.0/quickinstall: quickinstall: use unzip -q for more quiet operation
 277 2011-03-19T14:40:36  <MattMaker> (I guess it would be a good idea to test moin2 using a library that simulates a slow and error-prone network connection, to catch some unusual cases)
 278 2011-03-19T14:40:43  <dreimark> sinha_: and that was the meaning of the time out
 279 2011-03-19T14:41:02  <dreimark> MattMaker: or to increase the timeout
 280 2011-03-19T14:41:37  <ThomasWaldmann> MattMaker: why? we have testers in india for that. :P
 281 2011-03-19T14:41:42  <MattMaker> lol
 282 2011-03-19T14:41:45  <dreimark> ouch
 283 2011-03-19T14:41:57  <ErSame> lol
 284 2011-03-19T14:42:00  <sinha_> dreimark: exactly..previously in pip install ..it got downloaded up to 76 % but then exception came
 285 2011-03-19T14:42:08  <dreimark> sinha_: now do
 286 2011-03-19T14:42:10  <ThomasWaldmann> (scnr)
 287 2011-03-19T14:42:12  <dreimark> wget -c url
 288 2011-03-19T14:42:24  * MattMaker looks inside pip for a timeout setting
 289 2011-03-19T14:42:28  <dreimark> then you get the rest of it
 290 2011-03-19T14:42:52  <dreimark> MattMaker: if he gets timeout also by  wget he has a limitation by his provider
 291 2011-03-19T14:43:11  <MattMaker> oh, I missed that
 292 2011-03-19T14:43:17  <MattMaker> I see, yes
 293 2011-03-19T14:43:31  <dreimark> wget -c http://pypi.python.org/packages/source/W/Werkzeug/Werkzeug-0.6.2.tar.gz
 294 2011-03-19T14:43:32  <sinha_> dreimark : did pip install Werkzeug-0.6.2.tar.gz ..says successfully installed Werkzeug
 295 2011-03-19T14:43:41  <dreimark> aha
 296 2011-03-19T14:43:54  <ThomasWaldmann> MattMaker: if we had all in packages, we wouldn't need quickinstall any more. create virtualenv, enter virtualenv, pip install -e . could be done manually also
 297 2011-03-19T14:43:58  <dreimark> sinha_: now do the rest by pip install -e .
 298 2011-03-19T14:44:49  <sinha_> dreimark: running...hope this time works
 299 2011-03-19T14:45:24  <dreimark> may be you have to manual install another timeout package
 300 2011-03-19T14:47:13  <CIA-58> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 130:88d821d83751 2.0/quickinstall.bat: quickinstall.bat: first do the static stuff, do pip at the end. pip install babel first.
 301 2011-03-19T14:48:00  <MattMaker> wget --tries=3 ?
 302 2011-03-19T14:48:28  <dreimark> would help with the xstatic stuff
 303 2011-03-19T14:48:39  <dreimark> something like this must be done by pip
 304 2011-03-19T14:48:45  <dreimark> or the continue option
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 306 2011-03-19T14:52:33  <MattMaker> pip is using urllib2 here
 307 2011-03-19T14:53:25  <ThomasWaldmann> MattMaker: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/356028/ line 2434 if you are hacking in pip anyway, could you catch that and replace it with a retry or something?
 308 2011-03-19T14:54:10  <MattMaker> we think alike :)
 309 2011-03-19T14:56:03  <sinha_> dreimark: yes i have to install them manually..is there any link where i can see the sources of those packages
 310 2011-03-19T14:57:11  <dreimark> sinha_: http://pypi.python.org/pypi
 311 2011-03-19T14:57:27  <dreimark> may be you should do the whole process in your home dir
 312 2011-03-19T14:57:41  <sinha_> dreimark: yes.
 313 2011-03-19T14:57:44  <dreimark> or at least store at a save place the packages your downloaded
 314 2011-03-19T15:03:35  <MattMaker> ThomasWaldmann the socket timeout is supposedly infinite by default, maybe Fedora is different
 315 2011-03-19T15:03:49  <MattMaker> but could still catch and retry, yeah
 316 2011-03-19T15:04:16  <ThomasWaldmann> perfect might be a resume from pos x
 317 2011-03-19T15:04:54  <dreimark> MattMaker: wget also stops
 318 2011-03-19T15:04:58  <ThomasWaldmann> that would even handle per file limits of proxies or whatever
 319 2011-03-19T15:05:00  <dreimark> that is independent from python
 320 2011-03-19T15:05:11  <dreimark> so we need resume from x
 321 2011-03-19T15:06:54  <MattMaker> agreed, better that pip just recovers and tries to resume a few times, no matter why it failed
 322 2011-03-19T15:08:13  <MattMaker> fwiw I found this: http://www.voidspace.org.uk/python/articles/urllib2.shtml#sockets-and-layers
 323 2011-03-19T15:14:29  <ThomasWaldmann> MattMaker: yes, i also used that in moin 1.9 antispam code
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 326 2011-03-19T15:21:52  <dreimark> https://github.com/pypa/pip/blob/master/pip/download.py#L366
 327 2011-03-19T15:24:14  <MattMaker> yes, pip could be more clever right there, I can imagine a lot of recoverable errors at that spot
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 332 2011-03-19T16:14:42  <ThomasWaldmann> sinha_: so could you identify wrong or missing stuff in the docs?
 333 2011-03-19T16:15:23  * ThomasWaldmann is adding a note about "no root required" and "moin cmd is in the path after activating the virtual env"
 334 2011-03-19T16:17:17  <sinha_> ThomasWaldmann: you need to add that if timeout happens download all them manually..and how to install them manually in vitualenv
 335 2011-03-19T16:17:47  <sinha_> ThomasWaldmann: and also list of packages and their locations should be provided.
 336 2011-03-19T16:20:58  <ThomasWaldmann> sinha_: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/356083/
 337 2011-03-19T16:21:07  <ThomasWaldmann> that's what i have added
 338 2011-03-19T16:22:19  <dreimark> htg bbl
 339 2011-03-19T16:30:04  <sinha_> ThomasWaldmann: this could also be added http://paste.pocoo.org/show/356089/
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 342 2011-03-19T16:35:51  <ThomasWaldmann> http://paste.pocoo.org/show/356092/
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 344 2011-03-19T16:48:29  <ThomasWaldmann> http://paste.pocoo.org/show/356106/ anything more needed?
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 346 2011-03-19T17:43:00  <ErSame> one question, when I try to deploy moin I always get KeyError: u'modernized', It doesnt find humanize theme, what am I doing wrong?
 347 2011-03-19T17:43:23  <ErSame> sorry the modernized theme*
 348 2011-03-19T18:01:25  <ThomasWaldmann> ErSame: is this about moin 1.9 or 2.0?
 349 2011-03-19T18:01:37  <ErSame> ThomasWaldmann, 2.0
 350 2011-03-19T18:02:28  <ThomasWaldmann> works for me. did you follow the docs when installing it?
 351 2011-03-19T18:03:29  <ErSame> ThomasWaldmann, moin-2.0/docs/admin/install.rst
 352 2011-03-19T18:04:14  <ErSame> ThomasWaldmann, Which one do you recommend me?
 353 2011-03-19T18:05:53  <ThomasWaldmann> which what?
 354 2011-03-19T18:06:29  <ErSame> which docs should I follow
 355 2011-03-19T18:07:49  <ThomasWaldmann> yes, that ones
 356 2011-03-19T18:08:13  <ThomasWaldmann> and i need the traceback from that KeyError
 357 2011-03-19T18:08:13  <ErSame> I'll try again
 358 2011-03-19T18:08:24  <ErSame> ThomasWaldmann, ok, thank you
 359 2011-03-19T18:10:40  <ErSame> ThomasWaldmann, http://pastebin.com/TWQTDQj3
 360 2011-03-19T18:13:53  <ThomasWaldmann> is your repo uptodate?
 361 2011-03-19T18:15:29  <ErSame> I have checkout today
 362 2011-03-19T18:15:55  <ErSame> but anyway I am going to try again, is this the repo? https://bitbucket.org/thomaswaldmann/moin-2.0
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 364 2011-03-19T18:18:47  <ThomasWaldmann> yes
 365 2011-03-19T18:18:57  <ThomasWaldmann> ErSame: your flask-themes version?
 366 2011-03-19T18:21:34  <ErSame> ThomasWaldmann, how can I know?
 367 2011-03-19T18:24:43  <ThomasWaldmann> look into env/lib/python2.*/site-packages/
 368 2011-03-19T18:25:26  <ThomasWaldmann> btw, did you install everything using your normal user id? just thinking about whether you might have some permissions problems somewhere.
 369 2011-03-19T18:25:49  <ErSame> I just run ./quickinstall
 370 2011-03-19T18:25:56  <ErSame> and then moin
 371 2011-03-19T18:26:24  <ErSame> ThomasWaldmann, Flask_Themes-0.1.2-py2.7.egg
 372 2011-03-19T18:26:53  <ThomasWaldmann> same here, i don't have that issue
 373 2011-03-19T18:27:32  <ErSame> weird
 374 2011-03-19T18:27:45  <ThomasWaldmann> do you have python 2.6?
 375 2011-03-19T18:27:55  <ErSame> 2.7
 376 2011-03-19T18:28:13  <ThomasWaldmann> so no 2.6 available?
 377 2011-03-19T18:28:31  <ErSame> yes, I have it too
 378 2011-03-19T18:28:53  <ThomasWaldmann> maybe start from scratch using 2.6
 379 2011-03-19T18:29:03  <ThomasWaldmann> just to make sure it is not a python issue
 380 2011-03-19T18:29:21  <ErSame> perfect, I'll do it right now
 381 2011-03-19T18:29:43  <ThomasWaldmann> the theme loading has a fallback if it does not find the theme requested
 382 2011-03-19T18:30:14  <ThomasWaldmann> it will fall back to modernized then, because this is currently the only builtin theme and we assume that it is there and working
 383 2011-03-19T18:30:40  <ThomasWaldmann> in your case, it does the fallback, but fail again within the fallback
 384 2011-03-19T18:32:16  <ErSame> I see
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 386 2011-03-19T18:33:06  <sinha_> ThomasWaldmann : finally it worked :)
 387 2011-03-19T18:34:22  <ThomasWaldmann> :)
 388 2011-03-19T18:43:05  <CIA-58> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 131:6a60c384e578 2.0/docs/admin/ (install.rst serve.rst): admin docs: add devel install troubleshooting section, recommend non-root userid
 389 2011-03-19T18:56:30  <ThomasWaldmann> ErSame: does it work now?
 390 2011-03-19T18:57:11  <ErSame> ThomasWaldmann, I am trying in other pc cause I dont know how to launch the installation with python2.6
 391 2011-03-19T18:58:31  <MattMaker> that's twice today that an issue might involve python2.7, maybe I should try 2.7 here on my OS X machine
 392 2011-03-19T18:59:29  <MattMaker> ok, well the other one was with pip, but from what I read, that pip exception might be partly due to a change in 2.7
 393 2011-03-19T18:59:59  <MattMaker> (which pip *should* still handle, but anyway)
 394 2011-03-19T19:04:46  <ErSame> ThomasWaldmann, It works
 395 2011-03-19T19:05:28  <ErSame> So as MattMaker said it seems to be a python2.7 issue
 396 2011-03-19T19:07:14  <MattMaker> ThomasWaldmann, remind me what was that problem that was happening with py.test and file handles... because on OS X py.test is terminating silently somewhere around MoinMoin/apps/frontend/_tests/test_frontend.py .
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 398 2011-03-19T19:08:00  <MattMaker> oh, I see some things in py.test --help that might answer my question
 399 2011-03-19T19:10:33  <MattMaker> just playing around, not knowing what it means, I tried " py.test --collectonly " and that gets an ImportError
 400 2011-03-19T19:12:27  <MattMaker> running " py.test -v " ends at this output:
 401 2011-03-19T19:12:29  <MattMaker> MoinMoin/apps/feed/_tests/test_feed.py:10: TestFeeds.test_global_atom PASS
 402 2011-03-19T19:12:29  <MattMaker> MoinMoin/apps/frontend/_tests/test_frontend.py:16: TestFrontend.test_root
 403 2011-03-19T19:13:31  <CIA-58> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 132:d27737be7871 2.0/MoinMoin/ (converter/link.py util/iri.py): fix crash in link converter when link scheme is None. implement IriPath.__repr__.
 404 2011-03-19T19:14:37  <ThomasWaldmann> MattMaker: the fs2 backend leaks many files when testing
 405 2011-03-19T19:14:48  <ThomasWaldmann> other backends also, but on a smaller scale
 406 2011-03-19T19:15:12  <MattMaker> how can I skip the test that is killing py.test?
 407 2011-03-19T19:15:26  <xorAxAx> MattMaker: -k -word
 408 2011-03-19T19:15:28  <xorAxAx> i think
 409 2011-03-19T19:15:50  <ThomasWaldmann> https://bitbucket.org/thomaswaldmann/moin-2.0/issue/4/fs2-leaks-file-handles-and-breaks-pytest
 410 2011-03-19T19:17:22  <ThomasWaldmann> MattMaker: it is a sqlalchemy usage issue
 411 2011-03-19T19:20:00  <MattMaker> I tried changing wikiconfig.py to use fs instead of fs2, now py.test gets a little farther, up until ">   from sqlalchemy.test import assertsql, util as testutil     E   ImportError: cannot import name assertsql "
 412 2011-03-19T19:21:12  <MattMaker> oh, it doesn't like the form:   from foo import *
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 414 2011-03-19T19:22:15  <MattMaker> trying again without -k
 415 2011-03-19T19:23:03  <MattMaker> with -k it tries to run tests on everything in site packages
 416 2011-03-19T19:23:48  <MattMaker> should the py.test things really be affected by wikiconfig.py? that seems awkward
 417 2011-03-19T19:26:29  <ThomasWaldmann> in earlier times, it used MoinMoin/_tests/wikiconfig.py
 418 2011-03-19T19:27:26  <MattMaker> well, my immediate goal is to run tests before and after I change something, to see if *I* broke anything :D
 419 2011-03-19T19:27:57  <ThomasWaldmann> sure
 420 2011-03-19T19:28:34  <ThomasWaldmann> if you use fs, it should work (at least on linux, with 1024 files/process)
 421 2011-03-19T19:29:03  <MattMaker> it's running currently, not completed yet (OS X)
 422 2011-03-19T19:29:40  <MattMaker> it's testing everything in env/build/, is it supposed to be doing that?
 423 2011-03-19T19:29:44  <ThomasWaldmann> good that i didn't change fs to sqla also :D
 424 2011-03-19T19:29:58  <ThomasWaldmann> no
 425 2011-03-19T19:29:59  <MattMaker> :)
 426 2011-03-19T19:30:25  <MattMaker> okay, where did I go wrong...
 427 2011-03-19T19:30:30  <ThomasWaldmann> maybe we need another conftest.py in .
 428 2011-03-19T19:30:55  <ThomasWaldmann> or create one dynamically in env/
 429 2011-03-19T19:31:15  <MattMaker> it ought to be magical, so there's just a command to type to run tests that is idempotent
 430 2011-03-19T19:39:47  <MattMaker> well, using fs seemed to work, except for it running every test under env/build/
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 437 2011-03-19T20:31:39  * ThomasWaldmann thinks about a typechecking middleware
 438 2011-03-19T20:32:03  <ThomasWaldmann> to make sure data types of item names, meta data, data are as expected
 439 2011-03-19T20:32:52  <MattMaker> maybe un-Pythonic?
 440 2011-03-19T20:33:12  <MattMaker> but still might be nice
 441 2011-03-19T20:33:48  <ThomasWaldmann> currently there are a lot of failures with kvstore, because of str vs unicode
 442 2011-03-19T20:35:20  <MattMaker> is there any doubt that they should all be unicode, since Python is going that way in 3.0?
 443 2011-03-19T20:35:59  <MattMaker> and considering that sqllite hands them back as unicode no matter what
 444 2011-03-19T20:36:12  <MattMaker> and that sqlalchemy can optionally convert them on the way in
 445 2011-03-19T20:37:02  <ThomasWaldmann> well, problem is rather the callers
 446 2011-03-19T20:37:20  <ThomasWaldmann> and whether every backend should do the check or just one middleware
 447 2011-03-19T20:40:31  <ThomasWaldmann> an alternative route could be unicode literals maybe
 448 2011-03-19T21:06:55  <MattMaker> that's what I've been doing locally to understand it, changing constants to be u'keyname' , etc.
 449 2011-03-19T21:07:53  <MattMaker> question: is py.test supposed to be running more that one instance of moin2 as the same time, and how should that even work? I would expect it to crash or something.
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 451 2011-03-19T21:09:34  <MattMaker> *more than
 452 2011-03-19T21:11:01  <ThomasWaldmann> i don't think it runs more than one at once
 453 2011-03-19T21:11:20  <ThomasWaldmann> conftest.py creates moin apps
 454 2011-03-19T21:11:44  <ThomasWaldmann> in a rather messy way due to it supporting modules, functions, classes, methods
 455 2011-03-19T21:12:49  <ThomasWaldmann> hmm, mitsuhiko advises strongly against unicode_literals
 456 2011-03-19T21:19:37  <MattMaker> oh, I misunderstood, I am not familiar with unicode_literals, but whatever it is it does look like some black magic
 457 2011-03-19T21:21:28  <MattMaker> interesting stuff.  http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3627793/best-output-type-and-coding-practices-for-repr-functions
 458 2011-03-19T22:08:36  * ThomasWaldmann fixes some literals manually
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 460 2011-03-19T22:16:13  <CIA-58> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 133:d1da81a823ac 2.0/MoinMoin/storage/_tests/ (6 files): storage tests: fix failures related to kvstore type checking, unicode vs. str
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 466 2011-03-19T23:24:41  * ThomasWaldmann adds future imports
 467 2011-03-19T23:24:50  <xorAxAx> of what? :)
 468 2011-03-19T23:24:58  <xorAxAx> braces? :D
 469 2011-03-19T23:25:03  <ThomasWaldmann> absolute_import, division
 470 2011-03-19T23:25:18  <xorAxAx> ok
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