1 2011-05-17T00:06:56 *** m4k3r
2 2011-05-17T00:08:02 <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: acl_functions can be only defined in config or do you plan to have that in meta too?
3 2011-05-17T00:09:57 <dreimark> for something like that we would need some how a global meta
4 2011-05-17T00:10:03 <dreimark> for the whole wiki
5 2011-05-17T00:15:50 *** RogerHaase
6 2011-05-17T00:19:45 <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: it's for functionality, not content
7 2011-05-17T00:25:25 <dreimark> ok
8 2011-05-17T05:29:46 *** Marchael
9 2011-05-17T05:30:28 <Marchael> moin
10 2011-05-17T08:01:03 <ThomasWaldmann> moin
11 2011-05-17T08:03:47 <waldi> ThomasWaldmann: the mail-adress ist no hostname, so this is wrong
12 2011-05-17T08:22:28 <dreimark> moin
13 2011-05-17T08:25:33 *** andialbrecht_
14 2011-05-17T09:30:07 *** gwork
15 2011-05-17T11:23:21 *** pkumar
16 2011-05-17T12:08:27 *** Marchael
17 2011-05-17T12:12:15 *** sinha
18 2011-05-17T12:49:35 *** sinha
19 2011-05-17T12:57:13 *** greg_f
20 2011-05-17T12:59:53 *** Marchael
21 2011-05-17T13:09:00 *** pkumar
22 2011-05-17T13:13:36 *** Marchael
23 2011-05-17T13:28:09 *** Marchael
24 2011-05-17T13:59:38 *** ronny
25 2011-05-17T14:31:20 *** m4k3r
26 2011-05-17T14:32:27 *** pkumar
27 2011-05-17T14:52:00 *** ronny
28 2011-05-17T14:53:45 *** m4k3r
29 2011-05-17T14:54:03 *** m4k3r
30 2011-05-17T16:10:47 *** andialbrecht
31 2011-05-17T16:17:26 *** pkumar
32 2011-05-17T16:17:40 <ThomasWaldmann> xorAxAx: pkumar: does it make sense to duplicate the issues from the main issue tracker into your issue tracker?
33 2011-05-17T16:17:52 <ThomasWaldmann> gna
34 2011-05-17T17:02:56 <xorAxAx> "your issue tracker"?
35 2011-05-17T17:10:20 *** ronny
36 2011-05-17T17:10:44 <ThomasWaldmann> xorAxAx: see pkumar's bb site
37 2011-05-17T17:11:06 <xorAxAx> no, of course not
38 2011-05-17T17:13:49 *** m4k3r
39 2011-05-17T17:33:06 <ThomasWaldmann> xorAxAx: waldi: dreimark: btw, I am still seeing about zero communications with your students. is that because it happens not here or because there is none?
40 2011-05-17T17:33:45 <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: there is none
41 2011-05-17T17:34:02 <xorAxAx> currently there is none
42 2011-05-17T17:34:07 <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: then you should make clear that this is not acceptable
43 2011-05-17T17:34:58 <ThomasWaldmann> it's called community bonding phase for a reason
44 2011-05-17T17:38:52 <xorAxAx> indeed my student
45 2011-05-17T17:38:58 <xorAxAx> i hope you read the logs :)
46 2011-05-17T18:36:56 *** sinha
47 2011-05-17T18:42:08 *** ronny
48 2011-05-17T18:54:23 *** Marchael
49 2011-05-17T19:43:35 *** greg_f
50 2011-05-17T19:59:18 *** MattMaker
51 2011-05-17T20:08:46 *** m4k3r
52 2011-05-17T20:20:16 *** pkumar
53 2011-05-17T20:23:35 *** Marchael
54 2011-05-17T20:33:16 *** MattMaker
55 2011-05-17T20:48:17 *** RogerHaase
56 2011-05-17T20:49:26 *** MattMaker
57 2011-05-17T20:49:54 <pkumar> http://moinmo.in/pytest-2_common
58 2011-05-17T20:50:25 <pkumar> A basic overview of common project page
59 2011-05-17T20:50:37 <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: ^
60 2011-05-17T20:50:41 <pkumar> xorAxAx: ^
61 2011-05-17T20:50:54 <dreimark> bbl
62 2011-05-17T20:51:54 <pkumar> Need to add for other weeks too
63 2011-05-17T20:53:22 <xorAxAx> pkumar: could you come more often into irc? :)
64 2011-05-17T20:53:51 <pkumar> yup, from today onwards I'll be there
65 2011-05-17T20:54:03 <pkumar> my project work is over
66 2011-05-17T20:54:11 <pkumar> I mean college project
67 2011-05-17T20:54:16 <pkumar> :)
68 2011-05-17T20:54:44 <xorAxAx> cool
69 2011-05-17T20:54:50 <pkumar> So, what about the common project page?
70 2011-05-17T20:54:54 <xorAxAx> good idea
71 2011-05-17T20:55:00 <xorAxAx> didnt you say that there is no collision in your planned work?
72 2011-05-17T20:55:03 <pkumar> thanks
73 2011-05-17T20:55:14 <pkumar> yup
74 2011-05-17T20:55:29 <pkumar> nothing from now onwards
75 2011-05-17T20:55:35 <pkumar> :)
76 2011-05-17T20:57:54 <xorAxAx> hmm?
77 2011-05-17T20:59:46 <pkumar> you are talking about planned work of GSoC project right?
78 2011-05-17T21:03:08 <ThomasWaldmann> pkumar: http://moinmo.in/UnittestOverhaul wasn't that the page intended as common page? why do you create yet another one?
79 2011-05-17T21:04:13 <pkumar> That page is currently empty
80 2011-05-17T21:04:31 <pkumar> with a link to etherpad
81 2011-05-17T21:04:32 <ThomasWaldmann> no, it is not
82 2011-05-17T21:04:45 <ThomasWaldmann> yes, so?
83 2011-05-17T21:07:08 <pkumar> This page would be for the work division of me and Himanshu
84 2011-05-17T21:08:07 <ThomasWaldmann> well, iirc that was why the UnittestOverhaul page was created. and then its content moved to etherpad so that we all can more easily work in parallel.
85 2011-05-17T21:08:21 <ThomasWaldmann> so why do you create yet another one?
86 2011-05-17T21:09:25 <pkumar> I thought etherpad is for the complete project ideas, its minute details an work flow
87 2011-05-17T21:09:30 <pkumar> and*
88 2011-05-17T21:09:35 <pkumar> is it?
89 2011-05-17T21:09:58 <ThomasWaldmann> it is for planning your both projects and who does what exactly
90 2011-05-17T21:10:28 <ThomasWaldmann> i don't think we can easily work at multiple places on that, that just will get a mess
91 2011-05-17T21:10:38 <pkumar> okay
92 2011-05-17T21:11:01 <pkumar> so, do I need to put the parts of work on the etherpad?
93 2011-05-17T21:11:17 <ThomasWaldmann> so, work on extending the etherpad and kill that other page after you have migrated your content to the pad
94 2011-05-17T21:11:30 <pkumar> okay
95 2011-05-17T21:12:03 <ThomasWaldmann> after = ASAP
96 2011-05-17T21:13:27 <ThomasWaldmann> and i suggest that if something is contained in your project application, you mark it by PK or so, so that it is visible that YOU applied for working on that
97 2011-05-17T21:17:35 <pkumar> done :)
98 2011-05-17T21:18:02 *** grzywacz
99 2011-05-17T21:18:06 <pkumar> looks fine to me :)
100 2011-05-17T21:18:41 <pkumar> Should I add something to it?
101 2011-05-17T21:20:59 <ThomasWaldmann> well, maybe not just c&p it there, but to keep up a common structure of the document there?
102 2011-05-17T21:21:24 <pkumar> okay
103 2011-05-17T21:22:24 <pkumar> So, under different headings work should be mentioned, right?
104 2011-05-17T21:22:29 <ThomasWaldmann> also, i don't see a PK behind the modules from your application
105 2011-05-17T21:24:14 <pkumar> those are the total modules
106 2011-05-17T21:24:22 <pkumar> and need to be divided
107 2011-05-17T21:25:20 <ThomasWaldmann> you listed some modules in your gsoc project application. mark those with PK.
108 2011-05-17T21:26:06 <ThomasWaldmann> then do a directory listing and add the remaining modules/packages (without "PK")
109 2011-05-17T21:27:07 <pkumar> oh, In my project page?
110 2011-05-17T21:28:09 <ThomasWaldmann> on EP
111 2011-05-17T21:29:56 <pkumar> All the modules listed in my project application are mentioned here on EP
112 2011-05-17T21:30:12 <ThomasWaldmann> am I talking in chinese?
113 2011-05-17T21:32:41 <pkumar> I'm sorry but my plan was to divide those module works among us
114 2011-05-17T21:33:08 <ThomasWaldmann> we need a starting base and that is your both's applications
115 2011-05-17T21:33:43 <ThomasWaldmann> and after we know what we have to do in total and what is covered by your applications we can refine the planning
116 2011-05-17T21:34:25 <ThomasWaldmann> I am also not so sure it makes sense to divided the stuff into work weeks right now as it is not refined enough
117 2011-05-17T21:35:38 <ThomasWaldmann> also, if you do the directory listing, i think there are some more modules than listed in your application
118 2011-05-17T21:35:55 <ThomasWaldmann> a good idea would be to alphabetically sort the list for now, btw
119 2011-05-17T21:40:56 <pkumar> there are no tests for some of the directories like i18n, signalling, static etc
120 2011-05-17T21:41:47 <ThomasWaldmann> well, document that there?
121 2011-05-17T21:42:11 <ThomasWaldmann> having no tests might point to a coverage issue
122 2011-05-17T21:43:58 <pkumar> except those (those who have tests already) have already been included in my application
123 2011-05-17T21:44:43 <ThomasWaldmann> ?
124 2011-05-17T21:45:42 <ThomasWaldmann> can we just have a complete list of packages (add a comment if there are no tests), sort it alphabetically
125 2011-05-17T21:45:52 <pkumar> okay
126 2011-05-17T21:45:58 <pkumar> just a moment
127 2011-05-17T21:54:29 <pkumar> what are we supposed to do for directories like static containing html or .js files
128 2011-05-17T21:55:46 <ThomasWaldmann> that's not a python package then
129 2011-05-17T21:57:12 <pkumar> yeah
130 2011-05-17T22:00:11 <pkumar> what are files with .po and .mo extensions for?
131 2011-05-17T22:00:27 <pkumar> also with .pot
132 2011-05-17T22:06:54 <ThomasWaldmann> .pot are the translateable texts extracted from moin
133 2011-05-17T22:07:00 <ThomasWaldmann> .po are the translations
134 2011-05-17T22:07:19 <ThomasWaldmann> .mo is a compiled (binary) translation (nothing to do there)
135 2011-05-17T22:07:22 <pkumar> okay
136 2011-05-17T22:10:59 <pkumar> shall we go with the 'porting for the first week' plan?
137 2011-05-17T22:12:15 <pkumar> dividing different modules ?
138 2011-05-17T22:15:29 <pkumar> ThomasWaldmann: ^
139 2011-05-17T22:15:55 <ThomasWaldmann> there is not enough information yet to do that
140 2011-05-17T22:16:39 <ThomasWaldmann> also, I miss activity from everybody involved in testing projects
141 2011-05-17T22:17:04 <pkumar> What else information would be helpful?
142 2011-05-17T22:17:06 <ThomasWaldmann> (e.g. not all packages are of same size)
143 2011-05-17T22:17:15 <pkumar> yeah
144 2011-05-17T22:17:55 <pkumar> util, converter and datastruct are the big ones
145 2011-05-17T22:18:26 <pkumar> storage too
146 2011-05-17T22:19:25 <ThomasWaldmann> maybe you could use the tested code size as metric to total todo and size of tests as metric of porting todo
147 2011-05-17T22:20:19 <pkumar> yeah
148 2011-05-17T22:21:18 <pkumar> It would be great if we could finalize the plan within 2 to 3 days
149 2011-05-17T22:21:23 *** Marchael
150 2011-05-17T22:24:19 <ThomasWaldmann> pkumar: activate your mentor(s) and your fellow student
151 2011-05-17T22:24:35 <ThomasWaldmann> better late than never :P
152 2011-05-17T22:24:52 <pkumar> all right
153 2011-05-17T22:26:40 <pkumar> so, the next task should be to divide the modules according to earlier mentioned metrics
154 2011-05-17T22:27:10 <pkumar> ?
155 2011-05-17T22:27:26 <ThomasWaldmann> no, the next step is to add that metric
156 2011-05-17T22:27:51 <pkumar> right
157 2011-05-17T22:27:53 <ThomasWaldmann> e.g. code LOC : tests LOC
158 2011-05-17T22:28:15 <ThomasWaldmann> or use KB, maybe easier
159 2011-05-17T22:28:36 <pkumar> okay
160 2011-05-17T22:31:32 *** RogerHaase
161 2011-05-17T22:34:18 *** RogerHaase
162 2011-05-17T22:53:36 *** RogerHaase
163 2011-05-17T22:57:09 *** RogerHaase
164 2011-05-17T23:07:36 <dreimark> re
165 2011-05-17T23:21:06 <pkumar> ThomasWaldmann: ok, modules and their sizes are specified
166 2011-05-17T23:21:37 <ThomasWaldmann> ok, just continue braindumping there
167 2011-05-17T23:24:51 *** m4k3r
168 2011-05-17T23:34:46 *** pkumar
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