1 2011-11-20T00:23:02 *** grzywacz
2 2011-11-20T00:59:07 *** MattMaker
3 2011-11-20T01:09:58 *** MattMaker
4 2011-11-20T01:10:53 *** [WildRide]march
5 2011-11-20T03:36:24 *** jek
6 2011-11-20T03:36:45 *** jek
7 2011-11-20T04:32:22 *** pkumar
8 2011-11-20T05:07:26 *** pkumar
9 2011-11-20T05:10:15 <pkumar> ThomasWaldmann : got it!
10 2011-11-20T08:53:33 <dreimark> moin
11 2011-11-20T09:00:55 <dreimark> pkumar: can you add your linkid to http://moinmo.in/EasyToDoTemplate
12 2011-11-20T09:01:05 <dreimark> I later fix all task descriptions
13 2011-11-20T09:01:36 <pkumar> sure
14 2011-11-20T09:04:05 <pkumar> dreimark : do i need to add under mentors?
15 2011-11-20T09:04:19 <pkumar> my linkid or somewhere else?
16 2011-11-20T09:04:19 <dreimark> pkumar: yes
17 2011-11-20T09:04:26 <dreimark> the melange google linkid
18 2011-11-20T09:04:31 <pkumar> ok, thanks
19 2011-11-20T09:04:46 <dreimark> our uploader expands it then on melange
20 2011-11-20T09:06:13 <pkumar> ok, done!
21 2011-11-20T09:06:18 <pkumar> dreimark ^
22 2011-11-20T09:08:18 * dreimark fixes all task descriptions
23 2011-11-20T09:10:09 <pkumar> bbl
24 2011-11-20T09:10:11 *** pkumar
25 2011-11-20T10:39:35 *** greg_f
26 2011-11-20T10:58:31 <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: ping
27 2011-11-20T11:00:20 <dreimark> I see a different branch in 1.9 "editlogfixes"
28 2011-11-20T11:00:51 <dreimark> also a fix for the importer.
29 2011-11-20T11:01:28 <dreimark> is that prooven now?
30 2011-11-20T12:01:06 <eSyr> ThomasWaldmann: do language-specific mentors (for Finnish, Hindi, Polish) have melange link ID?
31 2011-11-20T12:09:53 <eSyr> ThomasWaldmann: btw, can't they help with 2.0 messages translation?
32 2011-11-20T13:44:01 <dreimark> bbl
33 2011-11-20T14:28:04 *** grzywacz
34 2011-11-20T14:28:04 *** grzywacz
35 2011-11-20T14:31:20 <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: i had a look at the importer and the current specs of what google does and it looked ok. the change was trivial, just using "Types" in the wiki instead of "Type", as multiple are allowed.
36 2011-11-20T14:31:40 <ThomasWaldmann> but as there were no tasks to push, i could not try it yet.
37 2011-11-20T14:32:41 <ThomasWaldmann> eSyr: the plan was that they don't have to be official mentors. they applied for helping with that specific translation, not to be mentors in general.
38 2011-11-20T14:33:50 <ThomasWaldmann> because of this i was asking you to administrate that, so you are the mentor as far as google is concerned, but you just communicate with these people to make sure that the translation was done properly.
39 2011-11-20T14:34:47 <ThomasWaldmann> and you can also make the contact between the student and our native speaker.
40 2011-11-20T14:35:53 <ThomasWaldmann> for the moin2 translations it is as I already stated: if someone is willing to invest quite some work with permanently updating that translation, I am ok with it.
41 2011-11-20T14:36:32 <ThomasWaldmann> but i am not interested in a one-time translation that is afterwards unmaintained and outdated quickly when we change strings in moin2
42 2011-11-20T16:35:09 <ThomasWaldmann> eSyr: the hi translation is >600 strings, split it into 2 or 3 tasks? http://moinmo.in/EasyToDo/update%20moin%201.9%20translation%20%28hi%29
43 2011-11-20T16:35:46 <ThomasWaldmann> would be good if they were done by same person, but maybe too much effort for just 1 task
44 2011-11-20T16:39:24 * ThomasWaldmann split it into 2x 72h+easy (comparable to uk task)
45 2011-11-20T16:40:47 <eSyr> ok.
46 2011-11-20T16:40:52 <ThomasWaldmann> eSyr: do you think we should explicitely say "automated translation is disallowed"?
47 2011-11-20T16:41:52 <ThomasWaldmann> eSyr: you speak french very well? or who is checking the fr stuff?
48 2011-11-20T16:42:22 * ThomasWaldmann had french at school, but i can't say i am speaking it well enough.
49 2011-11-20T16:44:13 <ThomasWaldmann> the uk task refers to the russian po file. is that because languages are very similar or is it a copy&paste error?
50 2011-11-20T16:48:59 <eSyr> ThomasWaldmann: copy&paste error.
51 2011-11-20T16:49:28 <eSyr> ThomasWaldmann: i have several friends who know French rather well, i'd asked them to help with checking.
52 2011-11-20T16:58:17 *** pkumar
53 2011-11-20T17:05:48 *** greg_f
54 2011-11-20T17:11:42 <ThomasWaldmann> eSyr: can you publish their name/email. just because of the bus factor. :D
55 2011-11-20T17:33:44 *** jek
56 2011-11-20T17:34:05 *** jek
57 2011-11-20T18:55:37 * ThomasWaldmann would appreciate if some more mentors would help with the tasks
58 2011-11-20T18:55:47 <ThomasWaldmann> or even non-mentors :)
59 2011-11-20T18:57:35 <ThomasWaldmann> eSyr: can you please fix the uk task page to fix the c&p error?
60 2011-11-20T19:15:09 <pkumar> ThomasWaldmann : moin, in EasyToDo pages I can see two sections, 'Need help' and 'ready for submission'. So only pages under 'need help' need to be modified right? Can you please tell what exactly needs to be modified there? More contents? Typos? Something else like this?
61 2011-11-20T19:28:31 <ThomasWaldmann> most stuff is still directly written on that page and needs to get moved to a subpage
62 2011-11-20T19:29:30 <ThomasWaldmann> first do a sanity check for the task (does it make sense, do we need it now, ...), if successful move task to a subpage using the EasyToDoTemplate
63 2011-11-20T19:30:25 <ThomasWaldmann> for new subpages, use count:: 0, so someone else can do a review and then set count
64 2011-11-20T19:31:27 <pkumar> how about the task under heading Code and subheading code - Tests?
65 2011-11-20T19:31:52 <pkumar> there's a subpage for it but it just mentions about finding bugs
66 2011-11-20T19:32:42 <ThomasWaldmann> which task?
67 2011-11-20T19:32:58 <ThomasWaldmann> (there are 3 items below that heading)
68 2011-11-20T19:33:51 <pkumar> first one?
69 2011-11-20T19:34:54 <pkumar> "run tests, there are some tests we currently skip"
70 2011-11-20T19:37:29 <pkumar> ThomasWaldmann ^
71 2011-11-20T19:39:27 <pkumar> does that task can be included as new subpage? merged with 'Find a bug fix a bug page'?
72 2011-11-20T19:44:22 <ThomasWaldmann> pkumar: you could just modify find a bug fix a bug page
73 2011-11-20T19:44:42 <ThomasWaldmann> and point out there how to find more bugs by running tests and how to find skipped ones
74 2011-11-20T19:45:08 <ThomasWaldmann> and after doing that, remove this item from easytodo page
75 2011-11-20T19:48:24 <pkumar> so all these bugs and test activities are for moin-2 or moin-1.9?
76 2011-11-20T19:48:29 <pkumar> ThomasWaldmann ?
77 2011-11-20T19:48:43 <pkumar> or both?
78 2011-11-20T19:49:09 <pkumar> or which one need more focus here?
79 2011-11-20T19:49:31 <pkumar> needs*
80 2011-11-20T19:49:53 <ThomasWaldmann> if it is "find/fix", we can easily allow both
81 2011-11-20T19:50:27 <ThomasWaldmann> important is the "talk to us" then. because some moin 1.x bugs won't be fixable there and are fixed in moin2.
82 2011-11-20T19:53:21 <pkumar> yeah, that can really save extra efforts. If it is about fixing broken tests and replacing 'not so smart' tests, do we need to focus more on moin2?
83 2011-11-20T19:54:57 <pkumar> or moin-1.9 shares an equal attention?
84 2011-11-20T19:58:43 <ThomasWaldmann> moin 1.9 -> small fixes for important things, everything else should be fixed in moin2
85 2011-11-20T19:59:07 <ThomasWaldmann> 1.9 is stable, thus no big changes
86 2011-11-20T20:02:07 * ThomasWaldmann will invalidate most "subpages that need help" now
87 2011-11-20T20:02:40 <pkumar> ok, I'll make the changes in find and fix a bug
88 2011-11-20T20:02:54 <pkumar> page
89 2011-11-20T20:10:57 *** jek
90 2011-11-20T20:11:22 *** jek
91 2011-11-20T20:11:40 *** jek
92 2011-11-20T20:14:16 *** jek
93 2011-11-20T20:15:07 <dreimark> re
94 2011-11-20T20:15:25 <pkumar> bbl
95 2011-11-20T20:23:19 *** pkumar
96 2011-11-20T20:42:03 <ThomasWaldmann> hi dreimark
97 2011-11-20T20:44:07 * dreimark reads EasyToDo
98 2011-11-20T21:32:09 <ThomasWaldmann> can we just consistently call it moin2 for now? :)
99 2011-11-20T21:37:51 <dreimark> oh - yeah
100 2011-11-20T21:40:34 <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: November 21, 2011, 08:00 UTC
101 2011-11-20T21:40:58 <dreimark> so we have some hours left, but not much
102 2011-11-20T21:41:35 <dreimark> may be we should submit now a bunch so that we don't get into a bandwidth problem
103 2011-11-20T21:41:43 <dreimark> no idea if it still exists
104 2011-11-20T21:47:23 <ThomasWaldmann> i'll submit some stuff soon
105 2011-11-20T21:47:47 <ThomasWaldmann> we should have at least 5 tasks in each category
106 2011-11-20T21:53:54 <dreimark> ok
107 2011-11-20T22:02:11 <ThomasWaldmann> 5 sane tasks :)
108 2011-11-20T22:19:11 <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: http://moinmo.in/EasyToDo/ConvertorsForDrawingItems please check and fix
109 2011-11-20T22:19:17 <ThomasWaldmann> ehrm, wait
110 2011-11-20T22:20:27 <ThomasWaldmann> http://moinmo.in/EasyToDo/ConvertersForDrawingItems fixed typo in title, check this url
111 2011-11-20T22:31:19 <dreimark> ok
112 2011-11-20T22:35:40 <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: not sure if it requires js
113 2011-11-20T22:39:15 <ThomasWaldmann> just edit the page
114 2011-11-20T23:03:12 * ThomasWaldmann tries to submit the tasks we have
115 2011-11-20T23:04:21 <ThomasWaldmann> xorAxAx: you should change the license of the google import code so it uses same licensing as moin
116 2011-11-20T23:04:51 <ThomasWaldmann> (currently it tells "GPL v2", moin is "GPL v2+")
117 2011-11-20T23:06:41 <xorAxAx> ThomasWaldmann: its fine if you change it
118 2011-11-20T23:16:17 <CIA-49> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 5794:00f1ec630fe0 1.9/contrib/googleimport/driver.py:
119 2011-11-20T23:16:17 <CIA-49> google import - use same license phrase as all other code
120 2011-11-20T23:16:17 <CIA-49> (23:02) < ThomasWal> xorAxAx: you should change the license of the google import code so it uses same licensing as moin
121 2011-11-20T23:16:17 <CIA-49> (23:03) < ThomasWal> (currently it tells "GPL v2", moin is "GPL v2+")
122 2011-11-20T23:16:17 <CIA-49> (23:05) < xorAxAx> ThomasWaldmann: its fine if you change it
123 2011-11-20T23:29:52 * dreimark looks at research diff task (first one)
124 2011-11-20T23:49:46 <dreimark> gn
125 2011-11-20T23:54:07 <ThomasWaldmann> gn dreimark
