1 2011-12-23T00:01:30 <cdbs> yup, I did
2 2011-12-23T00:01:49 <cdbs> I stuck on to sympy for the first 4 tasks, then did one for moin, then two for parrot, then remaining until now for moin
3 2011-12-23T00:01:53 <ThomasWaldmann> how was it compared to ours?
4 2011-12-23T00:02:17 <cdbs> hmm, the parrot mentors were very slow to respond
5 2011-12-23T00:02:39 <cdbs> both I did for them were hard, unlike the others which have all been easy
6 2011-12-23T00:02:55 <cdbs> but yeah, they were quite helpful, they're a much smaller team than moin
7 2011-12-23T00:02:56 <cdbs> as for sympy
8 2011-12-23T00:03:39 <cdbs> they were quite good at everything, tough to compare them with moin, but their code standards are much more strict
9 2011-12-23T00:03:44 <cdbs> that was good as well as bad
10 2011-12-23T00:04:13 <cdbs> because from what I've seen with myself and others as well, they won't accept a code change without 2-3 NEEDSWORKs
11 2011-12-23T00:04:22 <xorAxAx> ThomasWaldmann: did you hear anything about the table?
12 2011-12-23T00:04:42 <cdbs> I'll do one or two more for moin, then will look at KDE
13 2011-12-23T00:05:40 <ThomasWaldmann> xorAxAx: no. maybe we'll see it on the floor plan (or not).
14 2011-12-23T00:05:45 <cdbs> BTW, a question for you guys: Do organizations pay Google money for getting into the programme and also for payouts to participants, or does Google sponsor everything from their money pit?
15 2011-12-23T00:06:16 <xorAxAx> cdbs: org participation is 10 grand
16 2011-12-23T00:06:20 <xorAxAx> ;-)
17 2011-12-23T00:06:38 <xorAxAx> of course not, only google pays everyone's bills
18 2011-12-23T00:07:51 <ThomasWaldmann> hehe
19 2011-12-23T00:12:49 <ThomasWaldmann> "they won't accept a code change without 2-3 NEEDSWORKs"
20 2011-12-23T00:13:00 <ThomasWaldmann> that sounds a bit strange, can you explain?
21 2011-12-23T00:19:18 <ThomasWaldmann> cdbs:
22 2011-12-23T00:19:46 <cdbs> by that I mean, they will reject the participant's code twice or thrice for sure before accepting it
23 2011-12-23T00:20:01 <cdbs> oh, and I forgot to mention about limesurvey
24 2011-12-23T00:20:14 <cdbs> being honest, they are the crappiest in the whole event
25 2011-12-23T00:20:52 <ThomasWaldmann> ah, now I understand.
26 2011-12-23T00:21:08 <cdbs> their tasks are so interdependent, just finding out a task that can be completed independently is so tough, that participants choose to side with others instead
27 2011-12-23T00:21:09 <ThomasWaldmann> we also do NEEDSWORK often, except if it doesn't need more work.
28 2011-12-23T00:25:09 <cdbs> that way, you guys are doing very well in this event I'd say. haven't had any big issue with the code acceptance and mentorship procedure here. The only minor issue I've had is having to use mercurial ;)
29 2011-12-23T00:26:46 <ThomasWaldmann> you mean bitbucket :)
30 2011-12-23T00:27:31 <ThomasWaldmann> mercurial itself usually doesn't give issues
31 2011-12-23T00:33:38 <ThomasWaldmann> cdbs: you need to specify the issue you want to work on
32 2011-12-23T00:33:56 <cdbs> yup, I'm looking at which one to fix
33 2011-12-23T00:34:34 <cdbs> just a min
34 2011-12-23T00:35:06 <cdbs> ThomasWaldmann: I'll fix the failure @ MoinMoin/items/_tests/test_Item.py
35 2011-12-23T00:38:01 <cdbs> ThomasWaldmann: Do you also get the same issue? Try running the tests, does test_Item.py fail for you as well?
36 2011-12-23T00:38:11 * cdbs is a little doubtful about this one
37 2011-12-23T00:39:17 <ThomasWaldmann> cdbs: you mean the 2 tests fails everybody gets currently?
38 2011-12-23T00:39:36 <cdbs> ThomasWaldmann: well, 2 tests fail in one file, and one more test fails in another file
39 2011-12-23T00:39:50 <cdbs> so 3 tests fail in 2 files for me, in all 3 tests fail here
40 2011-12-23T00:39:58 <cdbs> I'm a bit doubtful about the 3rd failure
41 2011-12-23T00:40:22 * ThomasWaldmann runs py.test
42 2011-12-23T00:40:54 <ThomasWaldmann> well, iirc 2 fails are due to missing methods in the Dummy item/revision class.
43 2011-12-23T00:40:59 <cdbs> yup
44 2011-12-23T00:41:11 <cdbs> and the third one is what I'm going to fix
45 2011-12-23T00:41:31 <ThomasWaldmann> ok, have to see that one first.
46 2011-12-23T00:42:58 <ThomasWaldmann> i only see 2 fails, please pastebin the one you mean. does it happen with current main repo tip?
47 2011-12-23T00:43:18 <cdbs> yup
48 2011-12-23T00:43:56 <cdbs> ThomasWaldmann: http://pastebin.com/8yQ1XxTw
49 2011-12-23T00:44:11 <cdbs> ThomasWaldmann: it existed before I made my latest commit, so it's quite old
50 2011-12-23T00:47:47 <ThomasWaldmann> ok, that is an easy one. you need to say why your fix is correct when fixing that. :)
51 2011-12-23T00:52:16 <ThomasWaldmann> you think this is medium?
52 2011-12-23T01:07:04 <cdbs> ThomasWaldmann: well not
53 2011-12-23T01:07:17 <cdbs> ThomasWaldmann: so, to make it medium, should I fix another test as part of the same task? :)
54 2011-12-23T01:14:59 <ThomasWaldmann> it's easier if you just claim the right level
55 2011-12-23T01:15:47 <cdbs> is there a "fix test" task that has an easy difficulty?
56 2011-12-23T01:17:37 <cdbs> From what I'm seeing, all "fix a failing test" tasks are set to medium
57 2011-12-23T01:17:43 <ThomasWaldmann> ehrm, oops
58 2011-12-23T01:18:00 <ThomasWaldmann> i thought we had all levels, strange
59 2011-12-23T01:18:21 <ThomasWaldmann> ok, then maybe do a trivial fix for the other 2 fails also
60 2011-12-23T01:18:26 <cdbs> okay
61 2011-12-23T01:18:35 <cdbs> that's fine by me
62 2011-12-23T01:22:09 <ThomasWaldmann> put some description of what you like to fix into a comment
63 2011-12-23T01:24:04 <ThomasWaldmann> btw, the medium level likely comes from the skipped tests, which are skipped because they are harder to fix
64 2011-12-23T01:24:23 <ThomasWaldmann> those 3 easy fails are from more recently
65 2011-12-23T01:28:44 <cdbs> ThomasWaldmann: So, should I fix a skipped test as well? No prob on my side, I agree that just fixing the failures is too easy to be classified as medium
66 2011-12-23T01:29:35 <ThomasWaldmann> no, 3 of them is fine as medium. try to fix them well.
67 2011-12-23T01:29:51 <ThomasWaldmann> you can take a harder one afterwards as a new task
68 2011-12-23T01:34:27 *** qxcv
69 2011-12-23T02:08:53 *** cdbs
70 2011-12-23T02:16:19 *** raignarok
71 2011-12-23T03:10:43 *** bilal
72 2011-12-23T03:32:36 *** bilal
73 2011-12-23T05:23:22 *** bilal
74 2011-12-23T05:23:22 *** bilal
75 2011-12-23T05:38:28 *** bilal
76 2011-12-23T06:49:34 *** Trip_
77 2011-12-23T06:53:10 *** MattMaker
78 2011-12-23T07:35:44 *** xjjk
79 2011-12-23T07:38:23 *** xjjk
80 2011-12-23T08:55:48 *** Trip_
81 2011-12-23T10:00:14 <dreimark> moin
82 2011-12-23T10:23:47 *** pkumar
83 2011-12-23T10:43:11 *** raignarok
84 2011-12-23T11:17:58 *** qxcv
85 2011-12-23T11:18:42 *** qxcv
86 2011-12-23T11:19:53 *** qxcv
87 2011-12-23T11:22:55 *** qxcv
88 2011-12-23T11:27:16 *** raignarok
89 2011-12-23T11:46:43 *** qxcv
90 2011-12-23T11:50:42 *** raignarok
91 2011-12-23T11:56:07 <ronny> ThomasWaldmann: im wonering how well a min2 storage would be suited for a ci system
92 2011-12-23T11:56:12 <ronny> *wondering
93 2011-12-23T11:59:13 *** qxcv
94 2011-12-23T12:30:48 *** raignarok
95 2011-12-23T12:42:29 <ThomasWaldmann> ronny: no idea
96 2011-12-23T12:48:30 <ronny> ThomasWaldmann: i ame to the conclusion, that its not the right way to do
97 2011-12-23T12:48:35 <ronny> *came
98 2011-12-23T12:49:03 <ronny> ThomasWaldmann: a wiki hs histories of pages, a ci tool has mutable projects, and imutable entries for builds
99 2011-12-23T13:05:16 *** raignarok
100 2011-12-23T13:09:31 *** raignarok
101 2011-12-23T13:10:26 *** raignarok
102 2011-12-23T13:30:11 *** raignarok
103 2011-12-23T13:35:33 <dreimark> bbl
104 2011-12-23T13:42:47 <izibi> wohoo, holidays! finally... let's do something more useful :D
105 2011-12-23T14:04:25 <ThomasWaldmann> hehe
106 2011-12-23T14:07:47 <ThomasWaldmann> eSyr: when can we expect uk review results from native speaker?
107 2011-12-23T14:18:21 <qxcv> ThomasWaldmann: I left a couple of comments on http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2011/7159204 , I'm not entirely sure what you wanted done there
108 2011-12-23T14:21:15 <eSyr> ThomasWaldmann: posted response on first file, currently checking diff
109 2011-12-23T14:27:26 <ThomasWaldmann> oh, wow, that was a long response
110 2011-12-23T14:30:13 <eSyr> hmmm, i'm not sure, that arabic translation should be used instead of ukrainian.
111 2011-12-23T14:30:29 <eSyr> t
112 2011-12-23T14:30:29 <eSyr> msgid "Theme files not installed! Write rights missing for %s."
113 2011-12-23T14:30:29 <eSyr> msgstr "تھیم فائلوں کو نصب نہیں! ٪ کے لئے لاپتہ حقوق لکھو ایس"
114 2011-12-23T14:30:41 <eSyr> t
115 2011-12-23T14:30:41 <eSyr> msgid "Invalid highlighting regular expression \"%(regex)s\": %(error)s"
116 2011-12-23T14:30:41 <eSyr> msgstr "غلط کو اجاگر باقاعدہ اظہار \ \"٪ (regex) ے \" : ٪ (خرابی) ے"
117 2011-12-23T14:31:24 <eSyr> ohhh, google translate suggests that this is Urdu, which is near Ukrainian in language list.
118 2011-12-23T14:31:28 <eSyr> ooook.
119 2011-12-23T14:33:47 <eSyr> and what should i do?
120 2011-12-23T14:34:37 <eSyr> i'm not sure whether student can successfully fix translation if he can't distinguish arabic letters and cyrillic ones <_<
121 2011-12-23T14:34:58 <ThomasWaldmann> qxcv: see CR
122 2011-12-23T14:35:49 <ThomasWaldmann> eSyr: if there is any indication that someone brainlessly used google translate, fail him and tell that such stuff is no way acceptable
123 2011-12-23T14:35:49 <eSyr> ThomasWaldmann: i'm considering discard student and put fixes by native speaker with first variant of translation to MoinMaster.
124 2011-12-23T14:36:31 <ThomasWaldmann> but make sure that really HE did that and it was not there before.
125 2011-12-23T14:37:03 <qxcv> ThomasWaldmann: ty
126 2011-12-23T14:37:04 <eSyr> #, python-format
127 2011-12-23T14:37:04 <eSyr> msgid "Theme files not installed! Write rights missing for %s."
128 2011-12-23T14:37:04 <eSyr> -msgstr ""
129 2011-12-23T14:37:04 <eSyr> +msgstr "تھیم فائلوں کو نصب نہیں! ٪ کے لئے لاپتہ حقوق لکھو ایس"
130 2011-12-23T14:37:07 <eSyr>
131 2011-12-23T14:37:22 <eSyr> (this is diff between first and second file he posted)
132 2011-12-23T14:37:31 <ThomasWaldmann> even i see that this is not cyrillic :D
133 2011-12-23T14:38:32 <TheSheep> but it is the translation of that text
134 2011-12-23T14:38:40 <ThomasWaldmann> TheSheep: :P
135 2011-12-23T14:38:46 <TheSheep> maybe he applied for a wrong language
136 2011-12-23T14:38:48 <eSyr> TheSheep: yep, but not Ukrainian one :)
137 2011-12-23T14:40:09 <eSyr> TheSheep: as far as is can see (comparing glyphs), this translation is identical to one google translate suggests.
138 2011-12-23T14:40:29 <eSyr> *i can see
139 2011-12-23T14:40:48 <ThomasWaldmann> qxcv: keep the configuration simple. not more and not less than needed.
140 2011-12-23T14:41:12 <ThomasWaldmann> if there is too much stuff, people will just get confused and make mistakes
141 2011-12-23T14:42:44 <ThomasWaldmann> TheSheep: he was updating an existing translation, not doing a new one
142 2011-12-23T14:43:17 <ThomasWaldmann> so i think there is no intelligent way to get arabic into ukrainian
143 2011-12-23T14:43:34 <eSyr> http://www.google.ru/search?q=%22lucky.banwani%22
144 2011-12-23T14:44:13 <eSyr> (tried to google username part of e-mail address)
145 2011-12-23T14:45:21 <ThomasWaldmann> interesting
146 2011-12-23T14:45:48 <ThomasWaldmann> maybe just another case of student trying to cheat doing all sorts of translations using GT
147 2011-12-23T14:45:59 <ThomasWaldmann> we had that last year already
148 2011-12-23T14:47:04 <ThomasWaldmann> ok, fail him so that someone who really cares can do that task
149 2011-12-23T14:49:47 <izibi> please stop blowing up my irssi xD http://dl.dropbox.com/u/92247/2011-12-23-144818_780x467_scrot.png
150 2011-12-23T14:50:19 <ThomasWaldmann> haha
151 2011-12-23T14:50:23 <eSyr> izibi: my irssi is ok :P
152 2011-12-23T14:50:28 <ThomasWaldmann> mine also :)
153 2011-12-23T14:50:45 <ThomasWaldmann> brb
154 2011-12-23T15:36:49 *** qxcv
155 2011-12-23T15:49:35 <izibi> i don't want to restart irssi :D
156 2011-12-23T15:50:00 <izibi> it has an uptime of 55 days... killing uptime is evil :D
157 2011-12-23T16:02:37 *** izibi
158 2011-12-23T16:03:32 *** izibi
159 2011-12-23T16:04:08 <izibi> who wants to try to break my irssi again? :D
160 2011-12-23T16:23:49 <ThomasWaldmann> üöä?
161 2011-12-23T16:31:19 <dreimark> izibi: what kind of terminal do you use with irssi? because none of us has those problems
162 2011-12-23T16:31:48 <dreimark> →øøøþ→↓↓←øþ
163 2011-12-23T16:40:38 <izibi> dreimark: locale on the server was POSIX
164 2011-12-23T16:40:56 <izibi> so that might have caused some issues :D
165 2011-12-23T16:42:15 *** Gnarlodious
166 2011-12-23T16:44:57 *** pkumar
167 2011-12-23T16:48:07 *** Gnarlodious
168 2011-12-23T16:48:17 *** Gnarlodious
169 2011-12-23T16:49:48 *** Gnarlodious
170 2011-12-23T18:02:27 *** pkumar
171 2011-12-23T20:21:50 <CIA-59> Sam Toyer <samATqxcvDOTnet> default * 1175:218bd23ad58d 2.0/docs/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Add example Apache configuration and extend GivenAuth documentation
172 2011-12-23T20:21:51 <CIA-59> Sam Toyer <samATqxcvDOTnet> default * 1176:8af72cfcc0db 2.0/docs/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Make example apache config more specific (for basic auth only)
173 2011-12-23T20:21:51 <CIA-59> Sam Toyer <samATqxcvDOTnet> default * 1177:d103cceda249 2.0/docs/examples/deployment/moin-http-basic-auth.conf: Improve apache config example readability
174 2011-12-23T20:21:52 <CIA-59> Sam Toyer <samATqxcvDOTnet> default * 1178:30aff783c161 2.0/docs/examples/deployment/moin-http-basic-auth.conf: Simplify example apache config file, fix correctness
175 2011-12-23T20:21:53 <CIA-59> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 1179:e7ff2fbc9593 2.0/docs/ (3 files in 2 dirs): merged
176 2011-12-23T21:48:22 *** pkumar
177 2011-12-23T22:50:38 <izibi> dreimark: well i planned finishing it tonight. let's see how far i'll get ;)
178 2011-12-23T22:51:06 <izibi> btw will there be some mentors available here over the next week (christmas/congress)?
179 2011-12-23T23:18:41 <izibi> meh, why did codereview.py forget my login information?
180 2011-12-23T23:21:59 <izibi> http://codereview.appspot.com/5504083/ that's what i've got so far
181 2011-12-23T23:53:43 <ThomasWaldmann> izibi: I'll be at the congress all time. if you want something reviewed, ping me here and include a link.
182 2011-12-23T23:57:55 <izibi> if this will ever work? :D (my code)
