1 2012-01-10T01:12:36 *** qxcv
2 2012-01-10T04:45:19 *** lionaneesh
3 2012-01-10T04:45:32 <lionaneesh> Hello everybody
4 2012-01-10T04:45:44 <lionaneesh> I plan to do some of the bug fixing tasks for MoinMoin
5 2012-01-10T04:45:56 <lionaneesh> P.S : I am GCI student
6 2012-01-10T04:46:02 <lionaneesh> can anyone here guide me through
7 2012-01-10T05:38:07 <lionaneesh> I don't think any body is present here.
8 2012-01-10T05:38:32 <lionaneesh> I'll be around for a while so , please Ping me if anyone wants to help
9 2012-01-10T06:10:30 *** jek
10 2012-01-10T06:17:59 *** jek
11 2012-01-10T06:36:03 *** lionaneesh
12 2012-01-10T07:33:16 *** Dragooon
13 2012-01-10T07:35:37 *** Dragooon
14 2012-01-10T08:10:03 *** hardy89
15 2012-01-10T08:10:13 *** hardy89
16 2012-01-10T08:13:06 *** hardy89
17 2012-01-10T08:13:11 *** hardy89
18 2012-01-10T08:30:48 *** Dragooon
19 2012-01-10T08:41:20 <dreimark> moin
20 2012-01-10T08:41:31 <Dragooon> Moin
21 2012-01-10T08:41:51 <dreimark> lionaneesh seems to be in the wrong timezone
22 2012-01-10T08:42:03 <Dragooon> What do you mean?
23 2012-01-10T08:42:09 <dreimark> 05:36 < lionaneesh> I'll be around for a while so , please Ping me if anyone wants to help
24 2012-01-10T08:42:16 <dreimark> 06:34 -!- lionaneesh [~lionanees@125.19.76.162] has quit [Ping timeout: 276
25 2012-01-10T08:42:38 <Dragooon> He was here?
26 2012-01-10T08:42:42 <dreimark> yes
27 2012-01-10T08:42:53 <Dragooon> He's in same timezone as me..hmmm
28 2012-01-10T08:44:33 <Dragooon> Ah well, must be looking for tasks to do
29 2012-01-10T09:27:42 *** bndr
30 2012-01-10T09:44:03 *** Dragooon
31 2012-01-10T09:47:23 *** Dragooon
32 2012-01-10T09:54:58 <bndr> hello so i added the text to most of the items at the http://www.printfection.com/moinmoin and added a few tsirts and caps
33 2012-01-10T09:55:13 <bndr> so what should i do now?
34 2012-01-10T09:56:48 *** Dragooon
35 2012-01-10T09:57:34 *** Dragooon
36 2012-01-10T09:58:05 <ThomasWaldmann> bndr: make a wiki page on our wiki about it, see if Robin already has started one
37 2012-01-10T09:58:44 <ThomasWaldmann> also make sure you upload the graphics you used to that page
38 2012-01-10T09:59:27 <ThomasWaldmann> the positioning of the small gfx on the front side of the shirts, is it done manually or automatically?
39 2012-01-10T10:05:31 <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2011/7235218 looks complete, anything else?
40 2012-01-10T10:06:13 <bndr> some of it is done manually
41 2012-01-10T10:07:48 <ThomasWaldmann> i was asking myself whether it is on the correct side of the front of the tshirt
42 2012-01-10T10:11:46 <bndr> yes, i've fust noticed it too
43 2012-01-10T10:16:11 *** greg_f
44 2012-01-10T10:21:20 <ThomasWaldmann> hmm, i googled for some tshirt pictures. assuming they are not mirrored, it seems that the stuff is on the right side (when looking at the tshirt wearing person).
45 2012-01-10T10:22:05 <ThomasWaldmann> (or, in other words, on the left side of the tshirt)
46 2012-01-10T10:23:46 <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: eSyr: TheSheep: xorAxAx: http://www.printfection.com/moinmoin what do you think?
47 2012-01-10T10:24:31 <xorAxAx> expensive
48 2012-01-10T10:24:53 <eSyr> oh no, Impact >_<"
49 2012-01-10T10:26:16 <bndr> what font i need to use?
50 2012-01-10T10:26:51 <ThomasWaldmann> eSyr: hmm?
51 2012-01-10T10:28:20 <eSyr> http://moinmo.in/MoinMoinEtymology?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=MoinMoinMug.jpg hehe
52 2012-01-10T10:29:12 <ThomasWaldmann> eSyr: http://moinmo.in/More%20Images%20for%20linking%20to%20MoinMoin there the font "Franklin Gothic Medium" was used. is that better?
53 2012-01-10T10:29:47 <eSyr> ThomasWaldmann: looks so, yes.
54 2012-01-10T10:29:58 <eSyr> ThomasWaldmann: let's decide some fonts to use.
55 2012-01-10T10:30:27 <eSyr> Fonts used on that page looks good for me.
56 2012-01-10T10:31:10 <eSyr> *look
57 2012-01-10T10:31:10 <ThomasWaldmann> http://moinmo.in/Images%20for%20linking%20to%20MoinMoin there "League Gothic" was used
58 2012-01-10T10:31:37 <ThomasWaldmann> (font is included in that zip there)
59 2012-01-10T10:31:43 <eSyr> and those are awful -_-
60 2012-01-10T10:32:03 <eSyr> (rendering, at least)
61 2012-01-10T10:32:28 <eSyr> and many problems with kerning.
62 2012-01-10T10:32:58 <eSyr> ThomasWaldmann: i think font used on "more images..." page is rather good.
63 2012-01-10T10:33:40 <eSyr> and some words about shop: as i can see, there are only one design variant. There are to many similiar items which makes choice too difficult.
64 2012-01-10T10:34:06 <eSyr> is there some ability to hide all variants/choices under separate pages?
65 2012-01-10T10:34:54 <eSyr> (for example, have page "Moin t-shirts" and there represent all variants of t-shirts)
66 2012-01-10T10:35:58 <eSyr> http://www.printfection.com/moinmoin/Cutting-Board/_p_6637088 picture is too close to borders
67 2012-01-10T10:36:47 <bndr> i should use " Franklin Gothic Medium" font?
68 2012-01-10T10:38:10 <eSyr> ThomasWaldmann: http://moinmo.in/More%20Images%20for%20linking%20to%20MoinMoin?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=moinmoin_pack.zip hmmm, do we have source psd/xcf/whatever of those images?
69 2012-01-10T10:38:26 <ThomasWaldmann> bndr: how does your design for the tshirts work? can you easily change the font?
70 2012-01-10T10:38:39 <ThomasWaldmann> eSyr: he said he did png directly
71 2012-01-10T10:38:49 <eSyr> uh oh.
72 2012-01-10T10:38:58 <eSyr> too bad -_-
73 2012-01-10T10:39:19 * eSyr can't recognize font used
74 2012-01-10T10:43:07 <bndr> soooo what?
75 2012-01-10T10:43:21 <ThomasWaldmann> (10:36) < ThomasWal> bndr: how does your design for the tshirts work? can you easily change the font?
76 2012-01-10T10:44:22 <bndr> a should upload new png file with new text
77 2012-01-10T10:44:46 <ThomasWaldmann> so it is all in one png?
78 2012-01-10T10:44:53 <bndr> yes
79 2012-01-10T10:45:24 <ThomasWaldmann> ok, then please make one with logo and text in "Franklin Gothic Medium"
80 2012-01-10T10:45:37 <bndr> ok
81 2012-01-10T10:45:54 <ThomasWaldmann> and also please upload the original gfx file to the wiki page, plus the png
82 2012-01-10T10:46:21 <ThomasWaldmann> specify the font you used on the wiki page
83 2012-01-10T10:46:59 <ThomasWaldmann> and check what you can do about esyr's suggestions from above
84 2012-01-10T10:47:51 <ThomasWaldmann> maybe to avoid border issues you could leave some border on the png used
85 2012-01-10T10:48:16 <ThomasWaldmann> i suspect the software of printfection would respect that then
86 2012-01-10T10:56:52 <eSyr> (btw, there several other items, which have border problem — cases, mousepads and coaster)
87 2012-01-10T10:58:05 <ThomasWaldmann> bndr: also make sure the pixel resolution of the png is big enough to not cause pixelation issues (the objects manufactured are bigger as you see them on screen)
88 2012-01-10T10:59:41 <bndr> printfection says that i use exellent resolution
89 2012-01-10T11:00:14 <ThomasWaldmann> ok
90 2012-01-10T11:01:30 <ThomasWaldmann> btw, while you are at it: the area above the "store menu:" looks a bit strange
91 2012-01-10T11:01:49 <ThomasWaldmann> border missing, mostly empty
92 2012-01-10T11:04:33 <ThomasWaldmann> xorAxAx: apropos "expensive" - yes, this is maybe not the cheapest shop, but one of the criteria was that the shop offers intl orders/shipping.
93 2012-01-10T11:04:50 <xorAxAx> ok
94 2012-01-10T11:05:57 <eSyr> xorAxAx: the problem with custom stuff is that if you want it at reeasonable price, you should preorder some quantity (for example, 50 items of one type)
95 2012-01-10T11:07:17 <ThomasWaldmann> eSyr: and then you have all the burden with re-packaging/re-shipping it to final destination
96 2012-01-10T11:22:24 *** bndr
97 2012-01-10T11:40:44 <eSyr> ThomasWaldmann: http://esyr.org/dump/moinmoin_250px_2.svg http://esyr.org/dump/moinmoin_250px_2.curves.svg
98 2012-01-10T11:49:37 *** MattMaker
99 2012-01-10T11:49:51 *** MattMaker
100 2012-01-10T11:49:53 <ThomasWaldmann> ah, svg, nice
101 2012-01-10T11:50:50 <ThomasWaldmann> (a general problem with rather complex logos is that they tend to be not easily readable in small sizes)
102 2012-01-10T13:10:29 <dreimark> moin
103 2012-01-10T13:11:58 <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: on the cup it is not a circle
104 2012-01-10T14:11:40 <dreimark> bbl
105 2012-01-10T14:41:21 *** sungji
106 2012-01-10T14:41:38 <sungji> good day gentlemen
107 2012-01-10T14:42:54 <sungji> Does moinmoin support actual directories within a wiki? e.g. http://wiki.moinmo.in/somedirectory/FirstPage with somedirectory being a directory?
108 2012-01-10T14:52:49 *** qxcv
109 2012-01-10T14:57:31 <TheSheep> sungji: MoinMoin supports subpages, yes
110 2012-01-10T14:58:04 <TheSheep> sungji: it's not a directory in the filesystem, because moinmoin stores pages in its own way anyways
111 2012-01-10T15:07:20 *** RogerHaase
112 2012-01-10T15:09:41 <sungji> TheSheep, subpages? Something like Main.Subpage (as a usual moin page) ?
113 2012-01-10T15:19:34 <RogerHaase> sungji: see http://test.moinmo.in/aPage and http://test.moinmo.in/aPage/aSubPage
114 2012-01-10T15:20:27 <sungji> RogerHaase, thank you
115 2012-01-10T15:20:32 <sungji> TheSheep, thank you, too
116 2012-01-10T15:20:34 <sungji> ^_^
117 2012-01-10T15:44:08 *** xorAxAx
118 2012-01-10T15:46:27 *** xorAxAx
119 2012-01-10T16:15:59 <ThomasWaldmann> sungji: did you ask about directories for some special reason or did you just want subpages?
120 2012-01-10T16:16:51 <sungji> ThomasWaldmann, special reason. I was asked if moinmoin supports actual directories or not, and I didn't know. So, I asked this here
121 2012-01-10T16:22:10 <ThomasWaldmann> sungji: moin2 (which is not production ready yet) can do ftp-server like stuff (optionally)
122 2012-01-10T16:22:25 <ThomasWaldmann> then you really have directories with files
123 2012-01-10T16:22:38 <sungji> ThomasWaldmann, moin2 will solve the halting problem, too hahahaha
124 2012-01-10T16:23:06 <sungji> ThomasWaldmann, seriously, though, sounds like it's going to be awesome
125 2012-01-10T16:23:15 <sungji> ThomasWaldmann, thanks for the information
126 2012-01-10T16:30:38 <ThomasWaldmann> we'll solve it, you just have to wait long enough :P
127 2012-01-10T16:31:07 <sungji> hahaha
128 2012-01-10T16:38:21 <TheSheep> the halting problem on finite machines is solved
129 2012-01-10T16:39:52 <ThomasWaldmann> but moin also works on windows
130 2012-01-10T16:40:22 <xorAxAx> TheSheep: have fun recording every state of the machine :)
131 2012-01-10T16:42:54 <TheSheep> xorAxAx: you just use a larger machine to do that
132 2012-01-10T16:43:06 <xorAxAx> heh
133 2012-01-10T16:52:58 * xorAxAx plants a busy beaver in TheSheep's speech processing brain area
134 2012-01-10T16:59:51 <sungji> hahaha
135 2012-01-10T17:39:50 *** sungji
136 2012-01-10T17:42:41 *** bndr
137 2012-01-10T18:30:12 *** MattMaker
138 2012-01-10T18:30:31 *** MattMaker
139 2012-01-10T18:40:37 *** greg_f
140 2012-01-10T19:27:34 <bndr> http://www.printfection.com/moinmoin
141 2012-01-10T19:29:13 <bndr> i've used Franklin Gothic Medium
142 2012-01-10T19:29:27 <bndr> center the logo
143 2012-01-10T19:29:28 <bndr> дщпщ
144 2012-01-10T19:30:30 <bndr> and divided into two groups
145 2012-01-10T19:57:19 *** Dragooon
146 2012-01-10T20:11:54 *** raignarok
147 2012-01-10T20:16:13 *** moin7
148 2012-01-10T20:16:32 *** moin7
149 2012-01-10T20:16:59 <abril427> Hi, I am working on your develop an accessory 1/2 Google Code In task
150 2012-01-10T20:17:48 *** Dragooon
151 2012-01-10T20:18:51 <abril427> I submitted a link to a wiki page that I made with a rough design that I came up with, I found a website that will ship internationally if you just want to use the design submitted by previous workers
152 2012-01-10T20:23:53 <ThomasWaldmann> hi abril427
153 2012-01-10T20:24:27 <abril427> I submitted my link to my wikipage for review
154 2012-01-10T20:27:20 <bndr> thomaswaldmann: where should i create wiki page for work that i did?
155 2012-01-10T20:28:05 <bndr> and what else should I do?
156 2012-01-10T20:29:56 <ThomasWaldmann> bndr: use a subpage of the task page
157 2012-01-10T20:30:40 *** abril427
158 2012-01-10T20:40:08 <ThomasWaldmann> hmm, were did the reply links on melange go?
159 2012-01-10T20:41:27 *** bndr
160 2012-01-10T20:42:11 *** bndr
161 2012-01-10T21:16:06 *** bndr
162 2012-01-10T21:16:27 <bndr> http://moinmo.in/Accessory%20for%20Moin%20Fans
163 2012-01-10T21:18:51 <ThomasWaldmann> didn't you want to leave some margin to avoid issues?
164 2012-01-10T21:20:43 <ThomasWaldmann> bndr: and did you use transparent background?
165 2012-01-10T21:21:29 <bndr> yes
166 2012-01-10T21:22:03 <ThomasWaldmann> why does the grey text logo bg look different than the white text logo bg?
167 2012-01-10T21:23:09 <ThomasWaldmann> ah, it is just for visualization in the mini version
168 2012-01-10T21:23:37 <bndr> yes
169 2012-01-10T21:25:44 <ThomasWaldmann> bndr: the first impression of the shop is a bit like it has 2 articles in it
170 2012-01-10T21:32:01 <ThomasWaldmann> bndr: maybe replace the cap by a collage of cap, 2 different tshirts
171 2012-01-10T21:33:25 <bndr> ok
172 2012-01-10T21:34:58 <bndr> something else?
173 2012-01-10T21:36:34 <dreimark> moin
174 2012-01-10T21:43:57 <ThomasWaldmann> the top area of the shop, did you look at it?
175 2012-01-10T21:48:53 <bndr> nope
176 2012-01-10T21:49:46 * dreimark reads http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2011/7177394
177 2012-01-10T21:50:06 <ThomasWaldmann> it looks like they use a fixed layout, so I guess you could rather easly do a gfx like "<logo> MoinMoin Wiki Shop"
178 2012-01-10T21:57:18 <bndr> ok
179 2012-01-10T21:57:23 *** bndr
180 2012-01-10T23:33:31 *** RogerHaase
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