1 2012-04-01T00:02:32 *** dwcramer
2 2012-04-01T00:53:35 *** TheSheep
3 2012-04-01T01:10:03 *** ayrus12
4 2012-04-01T01:38:01 *** dwcramer
5 2012-04-01T02:15:22 *** dwcramer
6 2012-04-01T03:31:34 <xiaq> Moin, though likely no one else is awake now :) More on the issue tracker ideas
7 2012-04-01T03:33:41 <xiaq> I can do it by first enhancing the +meta view
8 2012-04-01T03:34:39 <xiaq> The issue view *might* be implemented by introducing a new +issue view
9 2012-04-01T03:35:27 <xiaq> But that doesn't feel clean enough
10 2012-04-01T03:38:43 <xiaq> ThomasWaldmann: you mentioned that there needs to be a way other than mimetype to influence how items are rendered, like wiki markup as "plain text, highlighted text or rendered"
11 2012-04-01T03:38:49 *** brunosmartin
12 2012-04-01T03:42:21 <xiaq> Currently the different rendering mechanism (plain text, highlighted text or rendered) depends on the +indexable, +highlight and +show respectively[C[C
13 2012-04-01T03:43:06 <xiaq> It is arguable that +issue is rather similiar to them - so they should use the same mechanism
14 2012-04-01T03:43:29 <xiaq> Also there is a pattern that occurs several times in apps/frontend/views.py
15 2012-04-01T03:44:15 <xiaq> Line 174: @frontend.route('/+show/+<rev>/<itemname:item_name>', methods=['GET'])
16 2012-04-01T03:44:52 <xiaq> Line 208: @frontend.route('/+dom/+<rev>/<itemname:item_name>')
17 2012-04-01T03:45:25 <xiaq> Line 239: @frontend.route('/+highlight/+<rev>/<itemname:item_name>')
18 2012-04-01T03:45:43 <xiaq> And so on...
19 2012-04-01T03:47:13 <xiaq> These views all take an item name or a revision plus an item name, and render it in some way
20 2012-04-01T03:47:50 <xiaq> They do not modify the item
21 2012-04-01T03:48:18 <xiaq> So my idea is that
22 2012-04-01T03:49:51 <xiaq> these views, with much in common, might be factored out
23 2012-04-01T03:50:37 <xiaq> I haven't came up with a better name, but let's call it "rendering view" for now
24 2012-04-01T03:51:53 <xiaq> We can add a layer of indirection for rendring views
25 2012-04-01T03:51:57 <xiaq> eg. instead of writing
26 2012-04-01T03:52:09 <xiaq> @frontend.route('/+dom/+<rev>/<itemname:item_name>')
27 2012-04-01T03:52:09 <moinBot> xiaq: Error: "frontend.route('/+dom/+<rev>/<itemname:item_name>')" is not a valid command.
28 2012-04-01T03:52:09 <xiaq> @frontend.route('/+dom/<itemname:item_name>', defaults=dict(rev=CURRENT))
29 2012-04-01T03:52:09 <xiaq> def show_dom(item_name, rev):
30 2012-04-01T03:52:10 <moinBot> xiaq: Error: "frontend.route('/+dom/<itemname:item_name>'," is not a valid command.
31 2012-04-01T03:52:27 <xiaq> ...
32 2012-04-01T03:52:42 <xiaq> we write something like
33 2012-04-01T03:52:51 <xiaq> @render_view('dom')
34 2012-04-01T03:53:01 <xiaq> def dom(item_name, rev):
35 2012-04-01T03:53:05 <xiaq> ...
36 2012-04-01T03:53:22 <xiaq> and the @render_view decorator would do the frontend.route part
37 2012-04-01T03:53:59 *** MattMaker
38 2012-04-01T03:54:51 <xiaq> Hey I wonder what is moinBot watching my @ for :)
39 2012-04-01T03:54:53 <xiaq> @help
40 2012-04-01T03:54:53 <moinBot> xiaq: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin.
41 2012-04-01T04:00:58 * xiaq played with moinBot
42 2012-04-01T04:01:28 <xiaq> Well that's pretty much what I've thought of, about the issue tracker project
43 2012-04-01T04:03:42 <xiaq> In brief, just add one more layer of indirection ;-)
44 2012-04-01T04:05:28 * xiaq read http://www.dmst.aueb.gr/dds/pubs/inbook/beautiful_code/html/Spi07g.html
45 2012-04-01T04:05:48 <xiaq> Should be "another level of indirection" :)
46 2012-04-01T04:28:36 <xiaq> BTW I will be pushing code to https://bitbucket.org/xiaq/moin2/
47 2012-04-01T04:51:45 *** sudo_dirk
48 2012-04-01T05:06:13 *** sudo_dirk
49 2012-04-01T05:36:54 *** dwcramer
50 2012-04-01T05:38:35 *** _mayank
51 2012-04-01T06:38:41 *** brunosmartin
52 2012-04-01T07:51:49 *** MattMaker
53 2012-04-01T08:26:47 *** _mayank
54 2012-04-01T08:35:05 *** _mayank
55 2012-04-01T10:17:59 *** kanha
56 2012-04-01T10:23:40 *** kanha
57 2012-04-01T10:24:12 *** kanha
58 2012-04-01T10:25:50 *** kanha_
59 2012-04-01T10:26:41 *** kanha_
60 2012-04-01T10:26:45 *** kanha
61 2012-04-01T10:30:06 *** kanha
62 2012-04-01T11:22:43 <kanha> moin
63 2012-04-01T11:24:27 <kanha> why its needed to Parse interwiki the same way as Moin Wiki(todo in creole_in.py)?
64 2012-04-01T11:57:54 <sudo_dirk> dreimark: i added video support to arnica. it is not completed but i use ffmpeg and pil to generate thumb- and webnail.
65 2012-04-01T11:58:33 <sudo_dirk> dreimark: possibly thats all i want to do there. if you click on the link you can view the video with an external player. is that ok for you?
66 2012-04-01T11:59:23 <sudo_dirk> dreimark: the thumb- and webnail have i videocamera icon in the to right corner to know its a video.
67 2012-04-01T12:00:24 <sudo_dirk> dreimark: i want to have the webnail pic a link to the original file if it's ok.
68 2012-04-01T12:01:00 <sudo_dirk> to->top
69 2012-04-01T12:24:15 <sudo_dirk> just one question? is there a macro, which shows all pages with special attachments? e.g. (.avi, .mov, .mp4)
70 2012-04-01T12:33:56 <ronny> sudo_dirk: i think you can abuse a macro that searches
71 2012-04-01T12:46:16 *** ayrus12
72 2012-04-01T13:04:20 <sudo_dirk> is it correct to use xapian with mimetyp? is there a possibilty to search for several mimetypes?
73 2012-04-01T13:04:47 <sudo_dirk> mimetype:image/v1 or mimetype:image/v2???
74 2012-04-01T13:15:24 <ronny> sudo_dirk: huh? moin has whoosh
75 2012-04-01T13:15:37 <ronny> eh moin2 mean
76 2012-04-01T13:48:19 <ThomasWaldmann> moin
77 2012-04-01T14:01:59 *** greg_f
78 2012-04-01T14:11:19 *** ThomasWaldmann2
79 2012-04-01T14:21:20 *** kanha_
80 2012-04-01T14:22:02 *** kanha__
81 2012-04-01T14:38:16 *** dwcramer
82 2012-04-01T14:38:52 *** ThomasWaldmann
83 2012-04-01T14:41:48 *** ThomasWaldmann
84 2012-04-01T14:41:49 *** ThomasWaldmann
85 2012-04-01T14:48:35 *** ThomasWaldmann
86 2012-04-01T14:48:42 *** ThomasWaldmann
87 2012-04-01T14:48:50 *** ThomasWaldmann
88 2012-04-01T14:49:58 *** ThomasWaldmann
89 2012-04-01T14:52:57 *** ThomasWaldmann
90 2012-04-01T14:52:57 *** ThomasWaldmann
91 2012-04-01T14:59:17 * ThomasWaldmann switched terminal/irssi to summer mode (black on white)
92 2012-04-01T15:11:19 <ThomasWaldmann> kanha: the link parsing in creole_in is a bit strange
93 2012-04-01T15:11:59 <ThomasWaldmann> [a-zA-Z0-9+.-]+ it uses this to match stuff like http ftp or other schemes
94 2012-04-01T15:12:34 <ThomasWaldmann> :// then it REQUIRES this (which is expecting too much already, e.g. mailto: has no //
95 2012-04-01T15:12:35 <kanha> ok
96 2012-04-01T15:14:37 <ThomasWaldmann> kanha: look at the inline_link regex in moinwiki_in.py
97 2012-04-01T15:15:49 <ThomasWaldmann> of course one has to check that it complies with creole link markup spec in the end
98 2012-04-01T15:19:47 *** dwcramer
99 2012-04-01T15:30:37 <kanha> spec mean?
100 2012-04-01T15:40:18 <kanha> In rst_in.py todo:i18n for docutils(visit_author(self,node) , visit_version(self,node) ,visit_copyright(self,node)) can you explain what is it about,what i18n ofr docutils mean?
101 2012-04-01T15:48:34 <ThomasWaldmann> spec means specification
102 2012-04-01T15:50:38 <ThomasWaldmann> i18n means internationalization. in that case it means to translate to string.
103 2012-04-01T15:51:43 <ThomasWaldmann> but i am not sure there is a good way to do that, because you maybe can not know the best target language.
104 2012-04-01T16:04:10 <ThomasWaldmann> kanha: maybe don't file 1 bug per typo
105 2012-04-01T16:05:08 <kanha> ok
106 2012-04-01T16:06:12 <kanha> so what should i do with that bug now?
107 2012-04-01T16:06:31 <ThomasWaldmann> (rather just find/fix some of them in your repo workdir and submit a patch)
108 2012-04-01T16:07:00 <kanha> ok thanks :)
109 2012-04-01T16:07:01 <ThomasWaldmann> just attach some more typo fixes, so we can fix them all at once
110 2012-04-01T16:08:22 <kanha> sure as am going throug codes so whenever i will find i will attach it
111 2012-04-01T16:15:05 *** DasIch_
112 2012-04-01T16:15:37 *** DasIch
113 2012-04-01T16:15:37 *** DasIch_
114 2012-04-01T16:18:59 *** RogerHaase
115 2012-04-01T16:37:36 *** kanha
116 2012-04-01T16:43:29 <RogerHaase> ThomasWaldmann: edit on doubleclick ready for review: http://codereview.appspot.com/5975057/
117 2012-04-01T16:44:53 * ThomasWaldmann looks
118 2012-04-01T16:46:15 <ThomasWaldmann> RogerHaase: this is a lot shorter than before
119 2012-04-01T16:46:41 <RogerHaase> yes, the autoscroll was complex
120 2012-04-01T16:47:32 <RogerHaase> cannot do autoscroll now because there are no embedded line numbers
121 2012-04-01T16:51:25 <ThomasWaldmann> ah
122 2012-04-01T16:51:51 <ThomasWaldmann> RogerHaase: review done
123 2012-04-01T16:52:14 <ThomasWaldmann> i am currently looking at {{{#!python etc. - i guess i found why it does not work
124 2012-04-01T16:57:07 <RogerHaase> ThomasWaldmann: on finding modify button with different flaks/werkzeug versions: would it be OK to search for either /+modify/ or /%2bmodify/ ?
125 2012-04-01T17:00:26 <RogerHaase> else we need a class on the modify LI or A element: ...looking at how hard that will be to do
126 2012-04-01T17:03:02 <ThomasWaldmann> that would be better, but some class might be cleaner
127 2012-04-01T17:10:33 <RogerHaase> ThomasWaldmann: adding class requires changing templates/itemviews.html, foobar/templates/local.html, and foobar/templates/itemviews.html
128 2012-04-01T17:11:56 <RogerHaase> I will add the class
129 2012-04-01T17:15:47 <ThomasWaldmann> ok
130 2012-04-01T17:30:56 <ThomasWaldmann> DasIch: are you editing the ideas page?
131 2012-04-01T17:31:15 <DasIch> ThomasWaldmann: i'm editing my application
132 2012-04-01T17:35:16 <ThomasWaldmann> somehow i often get (timed out) edit lock warnings for you
133 2012-04-01T17:37:29 <DasIch> ThomasWaldmann: hm, I've logged out and logged in again. Does that help?
134 2012-04-01T17:40:31 <ThomasWaldmann> shouldn't be necessary. just if you edit - either save or cancel
135 2012-04-01T17:55:56 *** greg_f
136 2012-04-01T17:57:57 <RogerHaase> ThomasWaldmann: added class, foobar theme works with doubleclick: http://codereview.appspot.com/5975057/
137 2012-04-01T17:59:39 *** greg_f
138 2012-04-01T18:01:57 <RogerHaase> ThomasWaldmann: But I had to move doubleclick event to body, it was on #moin-content. Foobar theme renamed #moin-content to #moin-content-with-panel. I think that is a wrong thing to do.
139 2012-04-01T18:02:40 <ThomasWaldmann> RogerHaase: ok
140 2012-04-01T18:03:32 <ThomasWaldmann> RogerHaase: there needs to be more thought on theme structure
141 2012-04-01T18:12:22 <RogerHaase> ThomasWaldmann: forgot to update comments in javascript - fixed
142 2012-04-01T18:23:53 <dreimark> moin
143 2012-04-01T18:26:44 <dreimark> sudo_dirk: sounds interesting, but webnail? that sounds wrong. we have two options there we need streaming or a way to have more than one image e.g. each min or so for a slideshow per video.
144 2012-04-01T18:28:17 <dreimark> in the future we need a convertor for webm or something similar
145 2012-04-01T18:29:34 <dreimark> i mean we need that in the cache somehow similiar to pythons repr for strings
146 2012-04-01T18:30:21 <dreimark> so that we can do mimetype_item.repr() and get a browser viewable object by that
147 2012-04-01T18:30:38 <dreimark> for some other formats we can use svg too
148 2012-04-01T18:31:15 <dreimark> e.g. pdf2svg can make a repr of svg from a pdf page
149 2012-04-01T18:33:05 <dreimark> sudo_dirk: look at AttachList macro, it has also a mimetype argument
150 2012-04-01T18:57:12 * ThomasWaldmann braindumps about macros, parsers, converters
151 2012-04-01T18:59:12 <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: don't miss acls
152 2012-04-01T18:59:48 <dreimark> i mean that such some of that objects needs to check acls
153 2012-04-01T19:00:01 <dreimark> -such
154 2012-04-01T19:01:13 <ThomasWaldmann> ?
155 2012-04-01T19:02:31 <dreimark> http://moinmo.in/ReimarBauer/Moin2BrainDump/Macros%20as%20Item
156 2012-04-01T19:03:53 <dreimark> if you don't want to give power of macros not too all users
157 2012-04-01T19:04:59 <dreimark> currently we also separate by is_superuser
158 2012-04-01T19:08:33 <ThomasWaldmann> we have function_acl since a while that can be used for misc functionalities
159 2012-04-01T19:09:27 <ThomasWaldmann> i read that wiki page. maybe it makes sense in some cases, where same or similar macro calls are needed.
160 2012-04-01T19:09:48 <ThomasWaldmann> and when the call is rather complex. otherwise it would make more sense to just do it inline.
161 2012-04-01T19:10:51 <dreimark> it is somehow like a template you have transcluded
162 2012-04-01T19:11:19 <dreimark> and you need onky to optimize the template item then
163 2012-04-01T19:13:53 <dreimark> i often have currently pages with attachlist, arnica and some other plugins and have to repeat that on tons of pages
164 2012-04-01T19:15:39 <dreimark> currently it is much easier for me to write a new parser where i only have to change the parser if one wants the output changed on all pages.
165 2012-04-01T19:15:59 <ThomasWaldmann> let me first try to unify those 3 things before we do new stuff :)
166 2012-04-01T19:16:29 <dreimark> ok
167 2012-04-01T19:18:07 <ThomasWaldmann> btw, macros are the last users of importPlugin code
168 2012-04-01T19:21:07 <dreimark> \o/
169 2012-04-01T19:21:40 <ThomasWaldmann> RogerHaase: where was it where we had the block vs inline issues recently?
170 2012-04-01T19:27:54 <RogerHaase> ThomasWaldmann: transclusions in general, http://test.moinmo.in/HTMLerror
171 2012-04-01T19:32:18 *** greg_f
172 2012-04-01T19:32:46 <RogerHaase> ThomasWaldmann: or did you want the name of module: include.py
173 2012-04-01T19:34:36 <RogerHaase> A better example of potential problem is http://test.moinmo.in/italicInclude
174 2012-04-01T19:59:08 <ThomasWaldmann> ok
175 2012-04-01T20:37:24 *** chaitu
176 2012-04-01T20:38:12 <chaitu> hello guys i'm chaitu , joined the community today
177 2012-04-01T20:38:38 <chaitu> only
178 2012-04-01T20:39:14 <chaitu> i'm interested in buiding a new calendar for moin2
179 2012-04-01T20:39:30 <chaitu> anyone interested in the topic
180 2012-04-01T20:47:37 <ThomasWaldmann> hi chaitu
181 2012-04-01T20:47:52 <chaitu> hello
182 2012-04-01T20:48:08 <ThomasWaldmann> for SOC, right?
183 2012-04-01T20:48:09 <chaitu> hello thomas
184 2012-04-01T20:48:14 <chaitu> yes
185 2012-04-01T20:49:16 <ThomasWaldmann> did you already work with moin before?
186 2012-04-01T20:52:54 <dreimark> chaitu: :)
187 2012-04-01T20:53:18 <dreimark> have you jquery experience and know the old moin calendar?
188 2012-04-01T20:53:45 <chaitu> i have good experience in jquery
189 2012-04-01T20:54:02 <chaitu> i know about the old moin calendar
190 2012-04-01T20:56:39 <chaitu> for improving the calendar , the features those are present in Fullcalendar jquery plugin might be a good choice right??
191 2012-04-01T20:57:48 <dreimark> yes i already have builted a xstatic package of it. But if you have a better one
192 2012-04-01T20:57:53 <dreimark> we can also use that
193 2012-04-01T20:58:04 <dreimark> on a first glance it looks pretty awesome
194 2012-04-01T20:58:45 <dreimark> have you looked already on moin2 ? its codebase is quite different than for the old m1
195 2012-04-01T20:59:07 <chaitu> no i didn't look at it , i will start looking at it
196 2012-04-01T20:59:47 <dreimark> a not uptodate version is running at http://test.moinmo.in/Home
197 2012-04-01T21:00:20 <dreimark> http://moinmo.in/MoinMoin2.0 for starter
198 2012-04-01T21:02:51 <chaitu> dreimark : could you please elaborate on xstatic package
199 2012-04-01T21:03:14 <dreimark> if you ask
200 2012-04-01T21:03:46 <dreimark> http://pypi.python.org/pypi/XStatic as an overview
201 2012-04-01T21:04:07 <dreimark> we want all 3rd party code also if it is not python installable by pip
202 2012-04-01T21:04:33 <chaitu> ok
203 2012-04-01T21:05:59 <dreimark> chaitu: everyone tries to elaborate all the time, just ask don't ask to ask
204 2012-04-01T21:06:56 <chaitu> what what ?? just ask don't ask to ask ??
205 2012-04-01T21:07:14 <dreimark> 21:02 < chaitu> dreimark : could you please elaborate on xstatic package
206 2012-04-01T21:07:31 <dreimark> i have to guess what the question is ;)
207 2012-04-01T21:07:45 <chaitu> k :)
208 2012-04-01T21:09:46 <dreimark> http://moinmo.in/4ct10n/info/GoogleSoc2012/InitialProjectIdeas?action=diff&rev1=22&rev2=18 (may be not recent now) but thats an example how to use a new plugin from an xstatic package
209 2012-04-01T21:09:58 <dreimark> just for the principles
210 2012-04-01T21:13:47 <chaitu> i understood about the xstatic .. thanks for providing the link
211 2012-04-01T21:15:30 <chaitu> it is an awesome idea , hatsoff to thomas Waldmann
212 2012-04-01T21:16:16 <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: ^
213 2012-04-01T21:17:21 <dreimark> if you want you can create a proposal page on our wiki and ThomasWaldmann can set acls on it. please use the developertemplate page as template
214 2012-04-01T21:17:43 <dreimark> this is than easier for us and you to discuss it before you upload it to melange
215 2012-04-01T21:32:17 <RogerHaase> ThomasWaldmann: Did you say OK to commit edit on doubleclick patch?
216 2012-04-01T21:40:44 <ThomasWaldmann> RogerHaase: yes
217 2012-04-01T21:49:33 <RogerHaase> ThomasWaldmann: edit on doubleclick pushed to https://bitbucket.org/RogerHaase/moin-2.0
218 2012-04-01T21:58:09 <ThomasWaldmann> thanks
219 2012-04-01T22:39:29 *** chaitu
220 2012-04-01T23:53:26 <RogerHaase> ThomasWaldmann: since it looks like there may be a student working on foobar theme, I plan on working on #38 and clean up common.js next. Or, do you have another idea?
