MoinMoin: MoinMoinChat/Logs/moin-dev/2012-04-09

   1 2012-04-09T00:19:49  <dreimark> gn
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   3 2012-04-09T01:15:55  <MaikuMori> ThomasWaldmann: I updated the pull request with last changes.
   4 2012-04-09T01:27:03  <ThomasWaldmann> ok
   5 2012-04-09T01:29:44  <ThomasWaldmann> MaikuMori: vv
   6 2012-04-09T01:29:46  <CIA-41> "Miks Kalnins <MiksKalnins@MaikuMori.com>" default * 1321:cc7067f61939 2.0/MoinMoin/script/maint/serialization.py: Windows support for moin load/save, fixes #66 "test moin load/save on windows, fix if needed"'
   7 2012-04-09T01:29:47  <CIA-41> "Miks Kalnins <MiksKalnins@MaikuMori.com>" default * 1322:04c5899fc02b 2.0/MoinMoin/script/maint/serialization.py: Refactored serialization script.
   8 2012-04-09T01:30:14  <ThomasWaldmann> you can now close #66, thanks for fixing it!
   9 2012-04-09T01:31:16  <MaikuMori> Thank you, that was my first open source bugfix :)
  10 2012-04-09T01:31:37  <ThomasWaldmann> \o/
  11 2012-04-09T01:32:44  <CIA-41> Diogenes Augusto Fernandes Herminio <diofeher@gmail.com> default * 1323:46b5ce342d4e 2.0/MoinMoin/translations/pt_BR/LC_MESSAGES/messages.po: Minor fixes to pt_BR translation
  12 2012-04-09T01:32:45  <CIA-41> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 1324:79ec6223a86c 2.0/MoinMoin/translations/pt_BR/LC_MESSAGES/messages.po: merged
  13 2012-04-09T01:35:29  <MaikuMori> ThomasWaldmann: Could you add alias to my bitbucket account (maikumori)?
  14 2012-04-09T01:36:12  <MaikuMori> Also, I'm off to bed. I'll see if I can fix something else tomorrow.
  15 2012-04-09T01:36:43  <ThomasWaldmann> ok
  16 2012-04-09T01:36:54  <ThomasWaldmann> gn MaikuMori
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  24 2012-04-09T06:44:34  <bretonium> need someone to discuss the network api
  25 2012-04-09T06:44:43  <bretonium> hmm
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  33 2012-04-09T10:14:20  <bretonium> nope, don't need anymore
  34 2012-04-09T10:15:07  <bretonium> is 'item' used somewhere in "show.html" (apps/frontend/views.py:191)
  35 2012-04-09T10:15:33  <bretonium> ?
  36 2012-04-09T10:16:40  <sudo_dirk> moin
  37 2012-04-09T10:18:09  <sudo_dirk> dreimark: there is a time issue with arnica (time by ctime and dst correction). see http://codereview.appspot.com/5992074
  38 2012-04-09T10:19:31  <dreimark> moin
  39 2012-04-09T10:19:34  <bretonium> well, still need to discuss.
  40 2012-04-09T10:20:10  <dreimark> bretonium: please ask, if i can answer i do
  41 2012-04-09T10:20:34  <bretonium> now moin2.0 does a lot of views-stuff not in views, but in items.Item. For example, do_modify
  42 2012-04-09T10:20:43  <bretonium> it also renders templates there
  43 2012-04-09T10:21:21  <bretonium> and it shouldn't do so, imho
  44 2012-04-09T10:22:16  <dreimark> bretonium: item_name is used in show.html
  45 2012-04-09T10:24:10  <dreimark> refactoring it to a cleaner soultion is welcome
  46 2012-04-09T10:24:54  <bretonium> it is also... err.. atomic. It does forms forming in itself, it renders data there
  47 2012-04-09T10:25:15  <bretonium> and it all prevents me from "clean" network api idea
  48 2012-04-09T10:25:46  <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: ^
  49 2012-04-09T10:26:19  <dreimark> from my point of view, you can refactor it.
  50 2012-04-09T10:26:50  <bretonium> I can. But it requires time, which is limited in gsoc.
  51 2012-04-09T10:27:19  <dreimark> i guess if we had thought on using a network api at that level before it would have been implemented already
  52 2012-04-09T10:27:36  <sudo_dirk> dreimark: for your info i had 1 hour offset with picture taken in dst and getting time by os had the wrong time, too.
  53 2012-04-09T10:28:00  <dreimark> sudo_dirk: time is sometimes a miracle, i look later
  54 2012-04-09T10:28:33  <dreimark> look into how it is done in user settings
  55 2012-04-09T10:28:49  <dreimark> bretonium: i think you don't have a time problem yet
  56 2012-04-09T10:29:00  <sudo_dirk> i know. and in moin1 we have no timezone. so i thought to have the taken time as utc time and get the right time with no offset.
  57 2012-04-09T10:29:59  <dreimark> sudo_dirk: we have a tz offset
  58 2012-04-09T10:30:14  <sudo_dirk> it has no dst :-(
  59 2012-04-09T10:30:52  <dreimark> look if your val is correct, see RC
  60 2012-04-09T10:31:05  <dreimark> or -- <unknown> <<DateTime(2012-04-09T22:00:03Z)>> beforehand
  61 2012-04-09T10:32:32  <sudo_dirk> i would like to store the correct utc time in exif cache, but with tz offset we have the dst issue...
  62 2012-04-09T10:34:20  <dreimark> bretonium: first make a plan. we discuss time issues afterwards
  63 2012-04-09T10:48:56  <dreimark> sudo_dirk: http://moinmo.in/FeatureRequests/SummerTime
  64 2012-04-09T10:50:50  * dreimark needs breakfast
  65 2012-04-09T11:12:14  <bretonium> dreimark: added network api section to http://moinmo.in/BorisBobrov/GSoC2012Application
  66 2012-04-09T11:13:12  <bretonium> there is a basic, abstract idea. I don't insist here on using json or xml-rpc or whatever
  67 2012-04-09T11:16:15  <bretonium> and it's a "pull" example there. Push is similar in idea.
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  69 2012-04-09T11:53:26  <MaikuMori> ThomasWaldmann: https://bitbucket.org/thomaswaldmann/moin-2.0/issue/94/password-change-should-invalidate-sessions#comment-1278578
  70 2012-04-09T12:05:22  <dreimark> MaikuMori: where comes the secret for the encryption from, if it is from the server side we can have maybe a secret per user and change that?
  71 2012-04-09T12:06:01  <MaikuMori> It's the SECRET_KEY in config
  72 2012-04-09T12:06:22  <dreimark> it should be because each wiki needs its own
  73 2012-04-09T12:07:39  <MaikuMori> Secret per user works I guess. Can be done by writting new cookie interface for flask
  74 2012-04-09T12:10:05  <MaikuMori> http://flask.pocoo.org/docs/api/#session-interface
  75 2012-04-09T12:12:48  <MaikuMori> Still if you store data on the server why not store the actual data and then store the key in cookie. That's how it's usually done in server-side sessions (as far as I know).
  76 2012-04-09T12:15:49  <MaikuMori> One advantage of doing that is that now you can store a lot bigger data in session then you could possibly in a cookie (if there is need for it of course).
  77 2012-04-09T12:20:11  <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: had refactored this old part in the repo before we rebootet it http://hg.moinmo.in/moin/2.0-dev/rev/5cc44a441bb7
  78 2012-04-09T12:20:18  <dreimark> we should wait until he is here
  79 2012-04-09T12:37:33  <ThomasWaldmann> moin
  80 2012-04-09T12:42:07  <bretonium> moin.
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  89 2012-04-09T14:51:16  <ThomasWaldmann> any idle soc applicants reading this? :)
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  91 2012-04-09T15:13:50  <dreimark> bbl
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 100 2012-04-09T16:25:08  <kanha> moin
 101 2012-04-09T16:36:20  <ThomasWaldmann> hi kanha
 102 2012-04-09T16:37:05  <kanha> ThomasWaldman:hi
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 104 2012-04-09T17:47:49  <dreimark> re
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 109 2012-04-09T20:00:49  <bretonium> moin
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 119 2012-04-09T21:45:56  <ThomasWaldmann> hi Jugo-igor
 120 2012-04-09T21:46:09  <Jugo-igor> hello
 121 2012-04-09T21:46:28  <ThomasWaldmann> ready to fix your proposal? :)
 122 2012-04-09T21:47:03  <Jugo-igor> yes =)
 123 2012-04-09T21:47:38  <ThomasWaldmann> ok, please change the title from the current value to something like "blog functionality for moin2" or so
 124 2012-04-09T21:48:21  <ThomasWaldmann> no other changes please. tell me when ready.
 125 2012-04-09T21:48:36  <Jugo-igor> of course
 126 2012-04-09T21:48:38  <ThomasWaldmann> ehrm, when finished.
 127 2012-04-09T21:49:36  <Jugo-igor> done
 128 2012-04-09T21:49:44  <ThomasWaldmann> ok, thanks
 129 2012-04-09T21:50:04  <ThomasWaldmann> that's just for the table view, so we have something meaningful in the title column
 130 2012-04-09T21:51:06  <Jugo-igor> understand
 131 2012-04-09T21:51:52  <ThomasWaldmann> btw, you didn't list any public code of yours. is there any?
 132 2012-04-09T21:54:39  <ThomasWaldmann> (if you have some urls to code written by yourself or any FOSS contributions, you could add them as a comment)
 133 2012-04-09T21:58:57  <Jugo-igor> I think that I could find that it can be shown, but if you allow I'll do it tomorrow. Now in my location 11 PM, and I need to get up early tomorrow.(in advance I apologize for my English, learn it is better - is more one goal for GSOC)
 134 2012-04-09T22:01:29  <ThomasWaldmann> sure, cu tomorrow :)
 135 2012-04-09T22:02:51  <Jugo-igor> About my obligations for summer - at the end of May I will have done all my university thing completely
 136 2012-04-09T22:03:56  <Jugo-igor> bye
 137 2012-04-09T22:04:05  <ThomasWaldmann> ok, cu
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 143 2012-04-09T23:33:31  <dreimark> re
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 145 2012-04-09T23:58:59  <esyr> ThomasWaldmann: btw, on metadata versioning: changing of metadata is orthogonal to changes in content or it is interpreted as change of item?
 146 2012-04-09T23:59:30  <esyr> s/orthogonal/independent/