1 2012-07-19T00:01:02 <jaiditya> no actually what I mean to say is a user like to use mofify view on double click...but if he wants to modify he would click on content area not the side panels
2 2012-07-19T00:02:01 <jaiditya> but in current situation even if I double click on side panels it would open the modify view
3 2012-07-19T00:02:25 <jaiditya> I personally don't like it
4 2012-07-19T00:07:26 <RogerHaase> there is a js function that applies doubleclick to the body tag. OK with me if you change it to #moin-content. Maybe someone else has an opinion?
5 2012-07-19T00:09:44 <jaiditya> yeah I think I should have opinion of others also before changinh
6 2012-07-19T00:09:53 <jaiditya> changing*
7 2012-07-19T00:12:00 <jaiditya> RogerHaase: how to view ".moin-table-of-contents"
8 2012-07-19T00:12:40 <jaiditya> I was comparing css code with modernized theme and found this clss
9 2012-07-19T00:12:49 <jaiditya> class*
10 2012-07-19T00:15:00 <RogerHaase> add <<TableOfContents>> to the top of the page (or near the top), plus your page must have 1 or more headings.
11 2012-07-19T00:29:06 <RogerHaase> gtg
12 2012-07-19T00:29:13 *** RogerHaase
13 2012-07-19T00:36:14 <jaiditya> gn
14 2012-07-19T01:12:31 *** dcramer_
15 2012-07-19T01:26:10 *** xiaq-m
16 2012-07-19T02:29:50 *** dcramer_
17 2012-07-19T05:14:14 *** yufra
18 2012-07-19T05:14:33 *** yufra_
19 2012-07-19T07:37:11 *** dcramer_
20 2012-07-19T08:50:52 *** josep2
21 2012-07-19T09:16:30 <dreimark> jaiditya doubleclick modify only in content area not at sidebars
22 2012-07-19T09:17:24 <dreimark> i have no idea which line the cursor is if you click in side panel
23 2012-07-19T09:18:11 <dreimark> usually u want cursor position to edit where you double click
24 2012-07-19T09:18:40 <jaiditya> yeah...thats what I had in my mind
25 2012-07-19T09:19:19 <jaiditya> I think its better to change it
26 2012-07-19T09:19:27 <jaiditya> I'll just do that
27 2012-07-19T09:19:31 <dreimark> yeah
28 2012-07-19T09:21:04 <jaiditya> done
29 2012-07-19T09:22:39 <jaiditya> dreimark: how about using a li:hover color for the side panels like this https://dl.dropbox.com/u/43518659/new-home-view.jpg
30 2012-07-19T09:29:55 <dreimark> jaiditya looks great
31 2012-07-19T09:30:28 * dreimark has to get some breakfast
32 2012-07-19T09:30:31 <dreimark> bbl
33 2012-07-19T09:58:18 *** jaiditya
34 2012-07-19T10:13:25 <xiaq> from http://etherpad.osuosl.org/moin-render-method line 27:
35 2012-07-19T10:13:34 <xiaq> view_method - is this maybe a misnomer and should be some "highlevel item type"?
36 2012-07-19T10:14:06 <xiaq> just call it "itemtype"? make another ep for that?
37 2012-07-19T10:16:41 <xiaq> (since ep doesn't support renaming...)
38 2012-07-19T11:09:40 *** greg_f
39 2012-07-19T11:14:50 *** jaiditya
40 2012-07-19T11:20:51 *** spy
41 2012-07-19T11:31:46 <dreimark> xiaq I don't think so. item creation of data and meta is not more special than on any other item. the different views or rendermethods make the difference
42 2012-07-19T11:43:28 <xiaq> dreimark: modify of "special"-type items (ticket, blogpost) ARE different - different metadata editor, even different way to modify data (eg. ticket items' data are append-only). since creation also uses the same +modify, their creation IS special.
43 2012-07-19T11:48:24 <dreimark> there are also usecases where you have only append for wiki items
44 2012-07-19T11:48:41 <dreimark> e.g. look at the irc log importer
45 2012-07-19T11:50:34 <dreimark> we need to define atomic operations per item and not too specialized for only one type
46 2012-07-19T11:50:47 <xiaq> dreimark: sounds interesting. how does the irc importer operate now? i guess it uses some rpc api instead of the web ui?
47 2012-07-19T11:53:18 <xiaq> perhaps have an itemtype "appendonly" and have "ticket" inherit from that
48 2012-07-19T11:54:30 <dreimark> in 1.9 we have a cli script integrated into the moin command
49 2012-07-19T11:55:55 <dreimark> somehow this appendonly sounds like a priviledge, similar to read, write, create
50 2012-07-19T11:57:15 <dreimark> appendonly can be also like a acl function, because user in some cases does not need read right for appending
51 2012-07-19T11:58:21 <xiaq> dreimark: ah, is there anything similiar already in moin2? :)
52 2012-07-19T11:58:53 <dreimark> superuser is now such a function
53 2012-07-19T12:00:24 <xiaq> dreimark: better make "append" another privilege IMO
54 2012-07-19T12:03:14 <dreimark> notextcha too, see docs
55 2012-07-19T12:04:50 <dreimark> thinking on that too, we have to define what is an atomic operation
56 2012-07-19T12:05:59 <dreimark> we removed revert, because that is read and write too.
57 2012-07-19T12:06:49 <dreimark> currently i think append is although one can read and write a differrent thingie
58 2012-07-19T12:07:32 <dreimark> lets wait for thomaswaldmann ^^
59 2012-07-19T12:07:51 <xiaq> dreimark: where is atomicity important for moin?
60 2012-07-19T12:09:24 <dreimark> somehow our rules are based on fs level operations e.g. fileaccess with acls
61 2012-07-19T12:10:23 <dreimark> usually the posix access model covers lots of the operations we also have
62 2012-07-19T12:11:37 <dreimark> we try not to overengineer some of the rules but also want it flexibel
63 2012-07-19T12:13:42 <jaiditya> dreimark: just a silly doubt Metedata list elements should not have hover background color. right?
64 2012-07-19T12:14:47 <dreimark> as append is also a file io operation i think we should add it to the security model
65 2012-07-19T12:15:13 <xiaq> dreimark: yeah. and it makes a lot of sense...
66 2012-07-19T12:16:15 <dreimark> jaiditya yes, because metadata will get widgets
67 2012-07-19T12:16:38 <dreimark> no hover therefore
68 2012-07-19T12:16:55 <jaiditya> ok. thanks
69 2012-07-19T12:46:22 *** josep2
70 2012-07-19T13:45:40 <dreimark> bbl
71 2012-07-19T13:46:15 <xiaq> everyone concerned with render-method: http://etherpad.osuosl.org/moin-itemtype
72 2012-07-19T13:46:22 <xiaq> and this: http://moinmo.in/GoogleSoc2012/IssueTracker/2012-07-19
73 2012-07-19T13:46:33 <xiaq> spy: ^^
74 2012-07-19T13:46:36 <xiaq> dreimark: ^^
75 2012-07-19T13:46:38 <xiaq> ThomasWaldmann: ^^
76 2012-07-19T13:47:17 * xiaq going out (for ~2h), will check irc when back
77 2012-07-19T14:38:33 *** dave_largo
78 2012-07-19T14:43:36 *** dwcramer
79 2012-07-19T15:29:48 *** dwcramer
80 2012-07-19T15:43:55 *** RogerHaase
81 2012-07-19T16:02:19 *** jaiditya
82 2012-07-19T16:21:26 * xiaq starts working on an itemtype implementation
83 2012-07-19T16:48:32 *** dwcramer
84 2012-07-19T17:12:03 <breton> moin
85 2012-07-19T18:41:58 <dreimark> hi breton
86 2012-07-19T18:45:50 *** RogerHaase
87 2012-07-19T18:47:05 <dreimark> bbl
88 2012-07-19T19:57:35 *** greg_f
89 2012-07-19T20:29:06 *** jaiditya
90 2012-07-19T21:25:49 *** jaiditya
91 2012-07-19T21:38:14 *** grzywacz
92 2012-07-19T21:38:29 <ThomasWaldmann> xiaq: ok, now we have 2 etherpads and one svg drawing. can we just stay at one place, please?
93 2012-07-19T21:51:17 *** dwcramer
94 2012-07-19T22:06:27 *** dwcramer
95 2012-07-19T22:09:39 *** dcramer_
96 2012-07-19T22:10:20 *** dwcramer
97 2012-07-19T22:23:25 *** RogerHaase
98 2012-07-19T22:44:16 *** dcramer_
99 2012-07-19T23:11:27 *** dave_largo
100 2012-07-19T23:51:47 *** dcramer_
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