MoinMoin: MoinMoinChat/Logs/moin-dev/2012-09-19

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   2 2012-09-19T00:36:12  <ThomasWaldmann> yup, read it. was quite fast turnaround.
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  11 2012-09-19T07:39:02  <technossomy> As a non-programmer, does anyone have tasks that need to be done on mm2, such as documentation or code review?
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  18 2012-09-19T10:13:02  <ThomasWaldmann> moin
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  30 2012-09-19T15:47:17  <dreimark> moin
  31 2012-09-19T16:27:55  <ThomasWaldmann> hi dreimark
  32 2012-09-19T16:30:15  <dreimark> have you seen the pull request for sel tests. I have asked for a final review before doing this
  33 2012-09-19T16:30:33  <dreimark> bug i think he answered and fixed all of the question on the cr
  34 2012-09-19T16:34:41  <dreimark> s/bug/but/
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  39 2012-09-19T20:25:16  <technossomy> I like to help out with working on moinmoin2 development. As a non-programmer, can anyone make a suggestion as to where my help could be utilised best? Documentation? Test scripting? Other?
  40 2012-09-19T20:41:39  <dreimark> technossomy: this is a wide field have you some special interests?
  41 2012-09-19T20:44:07  <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: i had sended an mail to spy requesting help with blog entries
  42 2012-09-19T20:59:19  <dreimark> xiaq: http://test.moinmo.in/Update%20Namespaces%20Branch
  43 2012-09-19T20:59:31  <dreimark> shows some html5 validation errors
  44 2012-09-19T21:13:32  <technossomy> No special interest, just indicating some preparedness to help outside coding.
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  49 2012-09-19T22:56:15  <ThomasWaldmann> hi technossomy
  50 2012-09-19T22:56:34  <technossomy> Tell me.
  51 2012-09-19T22:56:44  <ThomasWaldmann> thanks for offering help. most often you have left when I join. :)
  52 2012-09-19T22:57:29  <ThomasWaldmann> do you run moin 1.9?
  53 2012-09-19T22:59:37  <technossomy> I dont. I have never installed mm.
  54 2012-09-19T22:59:54  <technossomy> I have used it in some live environments.
  55 2012-09-19T23:00:21  <ThomasWaldmann> ah :) well, as you are interested in docs, you could install moin2 and check whether the docs work for you.
  56 2012-09-19T23:04:55  <technossomy> I can give that a try. Do I record issues in the issue log?
  57 2012-09-19T23:05:02  <ThomasWaldmann> technossomy: are you good with design / UI stuff?
  58 2012-09-19T23:05:39  <ThomasWaldmann> you can either file issues to the issue tracker (on bitbucket) or just talk to us, get clear about it and directly fix it
  59 2012-09-19T23:05:46  <ThomasWaldmann> whatever works better for you
  60 2012-09-19T23:07:25  <ThomasWaldmann> https://bitbucket.org/thomaswaldmann/moin-2.0 < there
  61 2012-09-19T23:10:31  <technossomy> I can do a bit of CSS and obviously like many other people I can trawl sites through W3C validators.
  62 2012-09-19T23:13:04  <ThomasWaldmann> if you find issues in css or html, fixes or tickets for that are of course also welcome
  63 2012-09-19T23:15:19  <technossomy> With documentation you mean matching the online documentation against what the admin/author sees on screen?
  64 2012-09-19T23:15:30  <technossomy> ...or other documentation?
  65 2012-09-19T23:17:41  <ThomasWaldmann> you can either read it on rtd online or in docs/... in the repo checkout
  66 2012-09-19T23:18:13  <ThomasWaldmann> most links are on http://moinmo.in/MoinMoin2.0
  67 2012-09-19T23:18:39  <ThomasWaldmann> if you have a repo checkout, fixing it is maybe easier if you also directly read the rst files below docs/
  68 2012-09-19T23:21:47  <technossomy> Ok, so we have installation issues, documentation issues, css/html issues.
  69 2012-09-19T23:22:36  <ThomasWaldmann> there are enough issues, yes :D
  70 2012-09-19T23:22:40  <technossomy> I had a look at the rst files earlier and made some suggestiosn for improvement, which in the meantime have been adopted. I can check if there are some more issues to fix. Do you know of any functionality in particular that has not been documented yet?
  71 2012-09-19T23:23:10  <ThomasWaldmann> nothing special right now
  72 2012-09-19T23:23:24  <technossomy> My grouping was of types of issues I can focus on.
  73 2012-09-19T23:23:33  <ThomasWaldmann> btw, keep moin documentation scope in mind
  74 2012-09-19T23:24:01  <ThomasWaldmann> the scope is moin, we don't document the outside world in detail
  75 2012-09-19T23:24:37  <ThomasWaldmann> (e.g. apache has own docs, mod wsgi has own docs, etc.)
  76 2012-09-19T23:25:00  <ThomasWaldmann> we can include some links and pointers, though
  77 2012-09-19T23:26:12  <technossomy> Yes, ok.
  78 2012-09-19T23:26:20  <ThomasWaldmann> (in the past, we tried to document a lot in detail, not only our stuff, but that caused more problems than it solved)
  79 2012-09-19T23:27:19  <ThomasWaldmann> we now require that somebody who installs moin on a server has some server admin knowledge or is able to find and read those other docs.
  80 2012-09-19T23:28:12  <ThomasWaldmann> it's different for the desktop install (which does not require server software and we do not require admin knowledge)
  81 2012-09-19T23:30:17  <technossomy> Makes absolutely sense.
  82 2012-09-19T23:40:43  <CIA-78> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 5887:b397401dda7f 1.9/ (7 files in 6 dirs): fix typos, correct is: 'occurred'
  83 2012-09-19T23:40:43  <CIA-78> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 5888:d9a35af73a83 1.9/MoinMoin/i18n/ (43 files): update i18n