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   5 2013-03-31T00:58:13  <ashutosh1461> dreimark, please review https://codereview.appspot.com/8180044 this fixes 250 https://bitbucket.org/thomaswaldmann/moin-2.0/issue/250/
   6 2013-03-31T01:01:52  <dreimark> I do in some hours after some sleep, we are just back from a birthday party
   7 2013-03-31T01:02:18  <dreimark> gn
   8 2013-03-31T01:04:11  <ashutosh1461> fine gn :)
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  17 2013-03-31T10:55:30  <dreimark> moin
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  23 2013-03-31T12:16:48  <ashutosh1461> moin everyone :)
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  26 2013-03-31T12:44:19  <ashutosh1461> dreimark, hi :) can you review https://codereview.appspot.com/8127044 ( Issue #328, multiple name must be unique with all names )
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  30 2013-03-31T13:18:05  <rihnapstor> hi dreimark  ThomasWaldmann , this is about issue #308 , recompiling main.styl  throws error for not being able to find "admonitions" which is a stylus file. How do i go for it ?
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  32 2013-03-31T13:36:08  <puneet> hi
  33 2013-03-31T13:36:31  <puneet> I wanted to ask weather Moin is participating in Gsoc-2013 or not
  34 2013-03-31T13:36:34  <puneet> I am from India
  35 2013-03-31T13:36:43  <puneet> a Final year student
  36 2013-03-31T13:43:03  <sunu> puneet: The official list is not out yet.
  37 2013-03-31T13:43:39  <rihnapstor> sunu: you worked on stylus files before  ?
  38 2013-03-31T13:43:56  <sunu> rihnapstor: no.
  39 2013-03-31T13:44:00  <rihnapstor> sunu: ok
  40 2013-03-31T13:44:02  <puneet> yes I know that..but is moin going to apply that was my question..because I wanted to apply for a project..and I am waiting for the results
  41 2013-03-31T13:44:39  <rihnapstor> puneet: no official  list out yet . see melange-gsoc
  42 2013-03-31T13:44:57  <sunu> puneet: yes. moin has applied ofcourse. The idea page is at http://moinmo.in/GoogleSoc2013/InitialProjectIdeas btw
  43 2013-03-31T13:46:03  <puneet> thanks :D that is what I was looking for..:) I don't care about the results of gsoc..if I find any interesting project I will work on that..irrespective of gsoc..
  44 2013-03-31T13:47:44  <sunu> puneet: great :). me and rihnapstor are also from india btw :D. lot's of indians everywhere :P
  45 2013-03-31T13:47:59  <puneet> hahahahah..how long have you been with moin?
  46 2013-03-31T13:48:28  <puneet> I am from DA-IICT which colleges are you from?
  47 2013-03-31T13:49:34  <sunu> I've been around for a few months. My college is kinda unknown :p. CET bhubaneswar.
  48 2013-03-31T13:50:32  <puneet> okay so which project are you planing to apply for? btw whats your name?
  49 2013-03-31T13:51:00  <sunu> DA-IICT has a very nice participation rate in gsoc :). I'm the only one applying from my college.
  50 2013-03-31T13:51:30  <puneet> yes..We had the thiird highest participation in gsoc last year in whole world..
  51 2013-03-31T13:51:30  <sunu> puneet: I'm trying for the pastebin and network api stuff mainly.
  52 2013-03-31T13:51:55  <puneet> okay nice..:)
  53 2013-03-31T13:53:44  <puneet> so which year are you in right now?
  54 2013-03-31T13:54:07  <sunu> 2nd. do you guys have python in the curriculum in your college ?
  55 2013-03-31T13:55:35  <rihnapstor> sunu: no, java is used from "Hello world" to "networking" to"designing" :P
  56 2013-03-31T13:57:56  <sunu> we have had c and c++ till now and nothing of practical significance is there in the curiculum. You just get to do bubble sort, merge sort :/
  57 2013-03-31T13:58:46  <sunu> and there are more electronics papers in cs and they are all mandatory. :(
  58 2013-03-31T13:58:49  <puneet> lol...:p we don't have python in curriculum but we do have to learn that due to some projects..and courses..
  59 2013-03-31T13:59:18  <puneet> they don't explicitly teach that to us
  60 2013-03-31T14:00:17  <sunu> Nice. we don't get to do any official projects either. I learned python for my personal projects though :)
  61 2013-03-31T14:03:35  <rihnapstor> sunu: i too
  62 2013-03-31T14:03:49  <rihnapstor> i got inspired  from Richard Stallman :)
  63 2013-03-31T14:03:56  <rihnapstor> hack DRM's :D
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  65 2013-03-31T14:18:49  <rihnapstor> dreimark:  ThomasWaldmann    issue #308,     i have analysed and removed necessary obselete attributes  from table tag, but i am stuck in compilng multiple stylus files, here is error i am getting http://dpaste.com/1041674/. please help from bug solving and learning perspective also.
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  68 2013-03-31T14:30:12  <ThomasWaldmann> moin
  69 2013-03-31T14:33:12  <RogerHaase> rihnapstor what stylus version do you have?    "stylus -V"
  70 2013-03-31T14:34:26  <ThomasWaldmann> i guess the issue is just how he invokes it. look at these pathes...
  71 2013-03-31T14:37:29  <ThomasWaldmann> RogerHaase: https://bitbucket.org/thomaswaldmann/moin-2.0/issue/342/switch-from-pil-to-pillow
  72 2013-03-31T14:38:51  <RogerHaase> yes, but it found smileys.css in same directory.
  73 2013-03-31T14:47:14  <ThomasWaldmann> if it is just about the invokation and cwd, we could have a "make css"
  74 2013-03-31T14:47:46  <ThomasWaldmann> btw, RogerHaase we have "make support" since a while - can you test it one windows?
  75 2013-03-31T14:47:50  <ThomasWaldmann> on*
  76 2013-03-31T14:48:39  <ThomasWaldmann> it should make a support/ directory, so that moin can be run without an active virtualenv by just invoking python moin.py from the toplevel dir
  77 2013-03-31T14:49:11  <ThomasWaldmann> (for making the support dir, you need to be in a working virtualenv though)
  78 2013-03-31T14:50:54  <ThomasWaldmann> (it is in python now, so besides the "make" it should work better on windows now)
  79 2013-03-31T14:52:08  <RogerHaase> ThomasWaldmann:  updated 342, Agree, Pillow is currently better than PIL 1.1.7.
  80 2013-03-31T14:57:34  <ThomasWaldmann> ok, so we could just try using it. as it seems to be api compatible (except the legacy import method), we can always switch back if needed.
  81 2013-03-31T15:02:18  <RogerHaase> found docs\make.bat.  back in ~ 40 min
  82 2013-03-31T15:09:41  <ThomasWaldmann> that's from sphinx, to build docs...
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  85 2013-03-31T15:30:40  <ThomasWaldmann> RogerHaase: i pushed a small changeset that adds pillow as an alternative. maybe you extend the docs a bit with whatever info is useful for windows users.
  86 2013-03-31T15:31:48  <ThomasWaldmann> RogerHaase: i was also thinking about whether the windows troubleshooting entry about pil stuff should not just go into a subsection of the PIL/pillow install section
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  91 2013-03-31T16:04:40  <RogerHaase> ThomasWaldmann:  yes, I will rework PIL/Pillow comments in install.html.  Still confused about "make support" -- where is it?
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  94 2013-03-31T16:11:39  <sunu> RogerHaase: it's in the gae branch
  95 2013-03-31T16:12:04  <sunu> but can you run make commands on windows ?
  96 2013-03-31T16:13:39  <ThomasWaldmann> sunu: even if not, he could copy the one line from the Makefile :)
  97 2013-03-31T16:14:47  <RogerHaase> sunu: thanks, no windows does not use make files, tw said it was in python now
  98 2013-03-31T16:22:20  <sunu> right :)
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 105 2013-03-31T17:01:43  <ThomasWaldmann> sunu: https://bitbucket.org/thomaswaldmann/moin-2.0/issue/272/auto-create-storage-index-if-they-do-not
 106 2013-03-31T17:02:19  <ThomasWaldmann> is that the only thing left to do for gae branch or are there issues missing on the issue tracker?
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 108 2013-03-31T17:07:56  <ThomasWaldmann> (with "left to do" I mean primarily things that are kind of unfinished or blocking merge into default branch)
 109 2013-03-31T17:20:25  <sunu> ThomasWaldmann: there is #303 ( size limitation on gae)
 110 2013-03-31T17:20:38  <ashutosh1461> ThomasWaldmann, updated, https://codereview.appspot.com/8127044/#ps5001
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 112 2013-03-31T17:23:32  <sunu> and also our current svgdraw code doesn't redirect after saving. Atleast not in chrome.
 113 2013-03-31T17:23:40  <sunu> ThomasWaldmann: ^^
 114 2013-03-31T17:29:26  <sunu> and may be the support directory ditection stuff.
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 116 2013-03-31T17:35:15  <rihnapstor> dreimark:  you are there ?
 117 2013-03-31T17:48:08  <ThomasWaldmann> sunu: yeah, i have seen the size limitation. but without a different gae store, we can't do much about that.
 118 2013-03-31T17:48:45  <ThomasWaldmann> sunu: svgdraw - is there an issue for that?
 119 2013-03-31T17:50:11  <sunu> No, the existing issue is about svgdraw not working at all
 120 2013-03-31T17:50:15  <rihnapstor> ThomasWaldmann:  RogerHaase  ,i am using version 0.31.0 ,why am i getting this error http://dpaste.com/1041674/
 121 2013-03-31T17:50:23  <rihnapstor> *of stylus
 122 2013-03-31T17:50:31  <sunu> But now it works, just doesn't redirect.
 123 2013-03-31T17:50:43  <ThomasWaldmann> sunu: ok, please update/create issues so they reflect the current state
 124 2013-03-31T17:51:21  <ThomasWaldmann> sunu: support dir presence should be quick to fix, can you do it afterwards?
 125 2013-03-31T17:51:50  <ThomasWaldmann> ashutosh1461: looking ...
 126 2013-03-31T17:53:27  <sunu> ThomasWaldmann: is tomorrow ok ?
 127 2013-03-31T18:11:29  * sunu zZZzZz..
 128 2013-03-31T18:13:27  <ThomasWaldmann> sunu: sure :)
 129 2013-03-31T18:13:42  <ThomasWaldmann> ashutosh1461: done
 130 2013-03-31T18:14:03  <ThomasWaldmann> rihnapstor: looking ...
 131 2013-03-31T18:14:49  <ThomasWaldmann> rihnapstor: can you just go to the main.styl directory and call stylus from there?
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 134 2013-03-31T18:22:11  <rihnapstor> ThomasWaldmann: i did that,but its not finding other .styl files . i have understood stylus rules from here http://learnboost.github.com/stylus/docs/import.html
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 136 2013-03-31T18:29:46  <ThomasWaldmann> tw@x300:~/w/moin-2.0/MoinMoin/themes/foobar/static/css/stylus$ stylus < main.styl > ../common.css
 137 2013-03-31T18:30:00  <ThomasWaldmann> works for me, does not emit anything on stderr
 138 2013-03-31T18:30:29  <ThomasWaldmann> $ stylus -V
 139 2013-03-31T18:30:29  <ThomasWaldmann> 0.27.2
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 141 2013-03-31T18:31:39  <rihnapstor> ThomasWaldmann:  btw, dreimark  had requested me earlier to make changes in  necessary stylus files. so the class tag are marked in 'moin_diff.styl' file which is imported by 'main.styl' which generates common.css. but using firebug i inspected that atom.html doesn't  hold a stylesheet tag to common.css ,so i have to put it ?
 142 2013-03-31T18:32:36  <ThomasWaldmann> how is the issue you are working on related to changing css?
 143 2013-03-31T18:34:33  <rihnapstor> replace html 4.0 attributes   in table tag with css and remove the unused code.  http://webdesign.about.com/od/tables/a/aa121597.htm
 144 2013-03-31T18:35:26  <rihnapstor> ThomasWaldmann: please correct me if  i missed something or i am entirely wrong.
 145 2013-03-31T18:35:37  <ThomasWaldmann> ah, ok
 146 2013-03-31T18:36:17  <ThomasWaldmann> so the question is whether and how an atom feed can use css
 147 2013-03-31T18:37:56  <rihnapstor> the atom feed points to the chrome's subscribe.css ,that i didn't get understand.
 148 2013-03-31T18:42:28  <rihnapstor> ThomasWaldmann: yes
 149 2013-03-31T18:51:08  * ThomasWaldmann fixed some docs
 150 2013-03-31T18:53:37  <RogerHaase> ThomasWaldmann:   moinbot has been mute for several days
 151 2013-03-31T18:57:51  <ThomasWaldmann> moinBot: ?
 152 2013-03-31T18:57:51  <moinBot> ThomasWaldmann: Error: "?" is not a valid command.
 153 2013-03-31T18:58:18  <ThomasWaldmann> hmm, it's alive
 154 2013-03-31T19:03:20  <ThomasWaldmann> https://moinmo.in/MoinMoinChat/Logs/moin-dev/2013-03-31
 155 2013-03-31T19:03:32  <ThomasWaldmann> RogerHaase: ah, you mean the commit notifies?
 156 2013-03-31T19:03:41  <RogerHaase> yes
 157 2013-03-31T19:04:02  <ThomasWaldmann> that's because the repo is still on another server as the bot
 158 2013-03-31T19:05:45  <RogerHaase> ah, ok.  I was surprised to see hg incoming had stuff without the bot messages
 159 2013-03-31T19:45:10  <RogerHaase> hg diff output after upgrading from stylus 0.29.0 to 0.31.0:  http://rn0.ru/show/Xn4nu5c85bRSBBxAIA9i/
 160 2013-03-31T19:47:43  <rihnapstor> RogerHaase: i get this error when compiling main.styl http://dpaste.com/1041674/ .It says it dodn't find styl files
 161 2013-03-31T19:47:49  <RogerHaase> rihnapstor: if you haven't fixed the stylus problem, cd to ...moin-2.0/MoinMoin/themes/foobar/static/css/stylus/, then invold the command as given at the top of common.css
 162 2013-03-31T19:47:50  <rihnapstor> i am stuck on this
 163 2013-03-31T19:48:13  <RogerHaase> invold/involk
 164 2013-03-31T19:49:10  <dreimark> re
 165 2013-03-31T19:50:06  <RogerHaase> rihnapstor: did you install stylus with -g option?  "npm install stylus -g"
 166 2013-03-31T19:51:21  <rihnapstor> RogerHaase: i tried to install with g but the npm blowed out with stderr then i  ignored g.
 167 2013-03-31T19:52:43  <rihnapstor> perhaps now it will work
 168 2013-03-31T19:52:44  <rihnapstor> wait
 169 2013-03-31T19:53:04  <RogerHaase> rihnapstor:  let's first fix that so we are all on same level -- show us command and error when you install with -g option
 170 2013-03-31T19:57:05  * dreimark greetings from leipzig
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 172 2013-03-31T20:01:24  <rihnapstor> RogerHaase:  compiled successful.this time i installed stylus with root access.
 173 2013-03-31T20:01:56  <rihnapstor> stylus -V 0.31.0
 174 2013-03-31T20:06:13  <ThomasWaldmann> hi dreimark
 175 2013-03-31T20:08:39  <RogerHaase> hooray.... but now everyone will have to upgrade to 0.31.0 or we will be changing foobar common.css based upon local stylus version
 176 2013-03-31T20:10:28  <dreimark> RogerHaase: i did always ~/node_modules/stylus/bin$ ./stylus ~/workspace/moin-2.0/MoinMoin/themes/foobar/static/css/stylus/
 177 2013-03-31T20:12:06  <dreimark> it is 0.31.0 too
 178 2013-03-31T20:13:09  <dreimark> (that is only the opposite call)
 179 2013-03-31T20:13:17  <RogerHaase> dreimark: do you get this diff when running stylus at tip?  http://rn0.ru/show/Xn4nu5c85bRSBBxAIA9i/
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 181 2013-03-31T20:15:01  * ThomasWaldmann updated docs, again
 182 2013-03-31T20:15:27  <rihnapstor> dreimark:  i did it too before because  it was not installed with 'sudo'
 183 2013-03-31T20:17:17  <dreimark> i don't have this
 184 2013-03-31T20:17:35  <dreimark> but let double check
 185 2013-03-31T20:17:57  * dreimark removed css 
 186 2013-03-31T20:23:19  <dreimark> it showed not up because i had not compiled it
 187 2013-03-31T20:25:58  <dreimark> http://rn0.ru/show/3CtRBwfcRxIc44ady5jJ/
 188 2013-03-31T20:28:08  <dreimark> i debug it currently
 189 2013-03-31T20:28:14  <RogerHaase> I just noticed I have the same on Linux Mint as dreimark, so with stylus 0.31.0, windows and linux do not compile css the same
 190 2013-03-31T20:39:57  <ThomasWaldmann> uhoh, seems i broke something with the data validation
 191 2013-03-31T20:43:55  <rihnapstor> gn
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 193 2013-03-31T20:51:01  <dreimark> RogerHaase: we need a smaller testcase between windows and linux
 194 2013-03-31T20:51:10  <dreimark> one without imports
 195 2013-03-31T20:51:36  <dreimark> is something in the codebase which can be used for such a test
 196 2013-03-31T20:52:20  <dreimark> (me is currently only guessing because of some experience with order problems=
 197 2013-03-31T21:04:01  <RogerHaase> dreimark:  agree, the problem seems to be between stylus 0.30.0 and 0.31.0
 198 2013-03-31T21:10:10  <RogerHaase> no, that is only true on windows, stylus 0.30.0 on linux has differences starting with ul.moin-tags
 199 2013-03-31T21:10:18  * ThomasWaldmann pushed a fix
 200 2013-03-31T22:07:13  <RogerHaase> dreimark: ThomasWaldmann: made small stylus test case:  http://rn0.ru/show/EafdrkFGJ7RpsYJQhZy2/
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