1 2013-06-11T01:22:01 *** ashutosh1461
2 2013-06-11T03:55:46 *** ashutosh1461
3 2013-06-11T04:36:19 *** sharky93
4 2013-06-11T05:38:35 <sharky93> moin
5 2013-06-11T06:06:41 <ThomasWaldmann> moin
6 2013-06-11T06:24:18 <sharky93> this is awesome http://www.ted.com/talks/renny_gleeson_404_the_story_of_a_page_not_found.html :)
7 2013-06-11T07:09:36 * ThomasWaldmann will look at it later :)
8 2013-06-11T07:10:02 *** ashutosh1461
9 2013-06-11T07:35:45 <ashutosh1461> ThomasWaldmann, why is there is no option for search in the action's toolbar , if a user has to search only a particular page ?
10 2013-06-11T07:37:08 <ashutosh1461> code exists for the purpose but i see no UI to deal with it.
11 2013-06-11T07:55:12 <ThomasWaldmann> giving an itemname term is just one of many possibilities for terms
12 2013-06-11T07:56:26 <ThomasWaldmann> and whether it makes any sense (for doing a whoosh search) depends on other factors also
13 2013-06-11T08:03:20 <ThomasWaldmann> ashutosh1461: ^
14 2013-06-11T08:04:05 <ThomasWaldmann> btw, does your ssh account work? some hints for irssi configuration are in your home dir.
15 2013-06-11T08:04:07 <ashutosh1461> got it.
16 2013-06-11T08:04:51 <ashutosh1461> i was unable to connect to freenode, it was telling me Network Not Reachable ?
17 2013-06-11T08:05:19 <ThomasWaldmann> look into that irssi.txt
18 2013-06-11T08:05:36 <sharky93> ThomasWaldmann, i'm getting "Permission denied (publickey)." on ssh @ 2222
19 2013-06-11T08:07:43 <ThomasWaldmann> give me the full commandline
20 2013-06-11T08:23:11 <sharky93> i think it is some issue with corkscrew
21 2013-06-11T08:24:03 <sharky93> "ssh -p2222 rraj@shell.ipv4.thinkmo.de"
22 2013-06-11T08:24:08 <sharky93> gives a "ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host"
23 2013-06-11T08:30:33 <ThomasWaldmann> ashutosh1461: ssh works for you?
24 2013-06-11T08:31:19 <ashutosh1461> no problems here.
25 2013-06-11T08:31:59 <ashutosh1461> but the processing is very slow.
26 2013-06-11T08:36:56 <ThomasWaldmann> yeah, login sometimes takes a bit. but afterwards the machine should be fast enough.
27 2013-06-11T08:38:29 <ThomasWaldmann> sharky93: that should work. try now or tell me the utc time of your last attempt.
28 2013-06-11T09:08:10 <ashutosh1461> ThomasWaldmann, updated etherpad.osuosl.org/moin-itemid with the itemid/revid ideas
29 2013-06-11T09:09:21 <sharky93> ThomasWaldmann, tried now.. same error :( .. time of attempt - 09:08 AM .. today .. ip should be 14.139.82.6
30 2013-06-11T09:10:00 <sharky93> brb
31 2013-06-11T09:10:07 *** sharky93
32 2013-06-11T09:48:31 *** greg_f
33 2013-06-11T10:00:07 *** greg_f
34 2013-06-11T10:32:33 *** ana_ananasova
35 2013-06-11T10:45:26 <waldi> ana_ananasova: please fill http://etherpad.osuosl.org/moin-mail ASAP. we only have one week left before coding starts and we did not finish up on the project contents
36 2013-06-11T10:47:02 <ana_ananasova> waldi, ok. starting right now
37 2013-06-11T11:04:56 *** ana_ananasova
38 2013-06-11T11:10:31 *** ana_ananasova
39 2013-06-11T11:11:53 * dreimark setuptools 0.7.2 released
40 2013-06-11T11:15:20 <dreimark> sharky93_: have you read about content stragegy/content choreograpy
41 2013-06-11T11:36:37 <waldi> sharky93_: you've got some connection problems?
42 2013-06-11T12:03:28 *** greg_f
43 2013-06-11T12:14:01 *** sharky93
44 2013-06-11T12:23:52 <ana_ananasova> is there a reason why not the whole ^wiki/data/ folder is added to the .gitignore?
45 2013-06-11T12:24:03 <ana_ananasova> .hgignore*
46 2013-06-11T12:28:03 <sharky93> dreimark, had not read about content choreography earlier, i checked it out now .. from what i understand if we finally use a css framework finally, it will support that.
47 2013-06-11T12:31:50 <sharky93> waldi, yes i am unable to ssh to the moin server, i am behind a proxy so im trying to tunnel ssh over http, i'm using corkscrew for that.
48 2013-06-11T12:32:04 <sharky93> i am getting "Proxy could not open connnection to shell.ipv4.thinkmo.de: Forbidden ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host"
49 2013-06-11T12:32:16 <waldi> sharky93: "Forbidden" is pretty obvious
50 2013-06-11T12:32:22 <sharky93> on using "ssh -p2222 rraj@shell.ipv4.thinkmo.de"
51 2013-06-11T12:36:38 <sharky93> waldi, have you used corkscrew before ? i believe there is some problem with that.
52 2013-06-11T12:37:47 <waldi> well. you can try wireshark to see what it does on the wire or strace/ktrace/dtrace what the process itself does
53 2013-06-11T12:38:56 <sharky93> can you tell if i am able to reach the moin server? i am getting just "ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host" now
54 2013-06-11T12:38:59 <sharky93> waldi, ^
55 2013-06-11T12:43:26 *** ashutosh1461
56 2013-06-11T12:43:26 *** dave_largo
57 2013-06-11T12:47:26 <dreimark> sharky93: "Proxy could not open connnection to" and Forbidden is the key
58 2013-06-11T12:48:34 <dreimark> I guess there is a firewall which blocks your communication
59 2013-06-11T13:03:32 <sharky93> hmm, im looking that up, btw can i not connect on 22 instead ?
60 2013-06-11T13:03:59 <sharky93> since with 22, i checked the verbose for ssh.. it goes right to the end, and refuses the public key
61 2013-06-11T13:04:25 <sharky93> and gives a "Permission denied (publickey)."
62 2013-06-11T13:34:04 <waldi> because this reaches a different server and you don't have rights to access it
63 2013-06-11T13:49:32 <dreimark> sharky93: try ssh-agent, execute the two lines it prints on your screen, ssh-add .ssh/yourkey
64 2013-06-11T13:49:41 <sharky93> hmm, i found out .. there's a hardware firewall controlling the "output" from the proxy.
65 2013-06-11T13:50:23 <dreimark> ok, thats what i meant before
66 2013-06-11T13:50:26 <sharky93> hmm
67 2013-06-11T13:50:29 <sharky93> getting in touch with the sys-admins now
68 2013-06-11T14:16:36 *** brunomartin
69 2013-06-11T14:17:34 <waldi> a
70 2013-06-11T14:27:30 *** brunomartin
71 2013-06-11T14:32:36 *** sharky93
72 2013-06-11T14:40:06 *** brunomartin
73 2013-06-11T14:44:45 *** sharky93
74 2013-06-11T15:02:10 *** brunomartin
75 2013-06-11T15:18:51 *** brunomartin
76 2013-06-11T16:11:19 *** sharky93
77 2013-06-11T16:12:36 *** sharky93
78 2013-06-11T16:36:56 *** RogerHaase
79 2013-06-11T16:40:33 <RogerHaase> ThomasWaldmann: moin 1.9 rss_rc.py needs one more patch for Python 2.7.5 compatibility: https://codereview.appspot.com/10188043/
80 2013-06-11T16:45:12 *** ashutosh1461
81 2013-06-11T16:45:19 <sharky93> TheSheep, i am down to two plugins http://code.google.com/p/jquery-i18n-properties/ & http://slexaxton.github.io/Jed/ both of them should work.
82 2013-06-11T16:45:34 <sharky93> however this is a very simple version which should work too -> https://github.com/recurser/jquery-i18n
83 2013-06-11T16:45:41 <sharky93> and is actually nice
84 2013-06-11T16:46:38 <ashutosh1461> ThomasWaldmann, please check http://etherpad.osuosl.org/moin-itemid when free.
85 2013-06-11T16:47:36 <TheSheep> sharky93: great, looking now
86 2013-06-11T16:48:59 <TheSheep> sharky93: can you check if those .properties files can be generated using python's gettext?
87 2013-06-11T16:49:20 <sharky93> TheSheep, ok, looking now
88 2013-06-11T16:51:41 <TheSheep> sharky93: did you consider any other libraries? why did you disqualify them?
89 2013-06-11T16:51:55 <TheSheep> sharky93: perhaps a page on the wiki listing them all and your notes would be good
90 2013-06-11T16:53:23 <sharky93> TheSheep, one was a license issue
91 2013-06-11T16:55:29 <TheSheep> sharky93: can you please put it all on a wiki, so that there is a trace and we can get back to it 2 years from now when everyone forgets?
92 2013-06-11T16:56:07 <TheSheep> sharky93: just a simple list would be enough
93 2013-06-11T17:35:26 *** chitrank
94 2013-06-11T17:42:58 *** ashutosh1461
95 2013-06-11T18:05:28 *** greg_f
96 2013-06-11T18:15:57 <sharky93> TheSheep, sorry for the late reply, was on the phone (bit important) .. here is the list -> http://moinmo.in/RishabhRaj/i18ntest
97 2013-06-11T18:32:26 *** RogerHaase
98 2013-06-11T18:38:48 <TheSheep> sharky93: I'd like you to also take a look at https://developer.berlios.de/projects/jsgettext/ and https://code.google.com/p/gettext-js/
99 2013-06-11T18:39:27 <TheSheep> (no preference, just I saw that you didn't have them on the list)
100 2013-06-11T18:42:53 <sharky93> TheSheep, https://code.google.com/p/gettext-js/ this i think uses prototype, we might not want to use as you were mentioning earlier
101 2013-06-11T18:43:25 <sharky93> added to wiki.
102 2013-06-11T18:44:49 <TheSheep> thanks
103 2013-06-11T18:46:32 <TheSheep> ThomasWaldmann: I wonder how to tackle this js translation stuff. The way it is now is definitely suboptimal. Do you think it would be possible to somehow separate the strings that come from the js, so that we don't have to serve the complete set of translations?
104 2013-06-11T18:47:03 <TheSheep> ThomasWaldmann: or is the number of those strings small enough to just do it all by hand?
105 2013-06-11T18:53:29 <sharky93> ThomasWaldmann, are we comfortable with LGPL?
106 2013-06-11T18:58:18 <TheSheep> sharky93: yes
107 2013-06-11T19:05:22 <waldi> sharky93_: LGPL is ambiguous, which version?
108 2013-06-11T19:11:46 *** ana_ananasova
109 2013-06-11T19:13:10 <sharky93> waldi, Version 2.1 .. this is in context with https://developer.berlios.de/projects/jsgettext/
110 2013-06-11T19:14:01 <sharky93> gumby released ver. 2.3!
111 2013-06-11T19:14:34 <waldi> sharky93: you have to actually look into the code
112 2013-06-11T19:15:11 <waldi> please review the license yourself, LGPL is useless, because there are several versions and often version ranges
113 2013-06-11T19:16:21 <sharky93> ok
114 2013-06-11T19:17:00 <waldi> it is LGPL 2.0+ and not changed since two years
115 2013-06-11T19:24:24 <sharky93> i cannot find info on compatibility with GPLv2+
116 2013-06-11T19:24:49 <sharky93> TheSheep, any more clarity with on the ui-frameworks front? this SoC?
117 2013-06-11T19:55:41 *** sharky93_
118 2013-06-11T19:58:34 *** sharky93_
119 2013-06-11T19:59:32 <TheSheep> sharky93: no, do you have a personal favorite?
120 2013-06-11T20:29:55 *** dave_largo
121 2013-06-11T20:34:13 *** chitrank
122 2013-06-11T21:53:48 *** not-xjjk
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