1 2013-12-07T02:11:06 *** sudo_dirk
2 2013-12-07T02:11:28 *** sudo_dirk_
3 2013-12-07T08:26:33 *** Jigar54
4 2013-12-07T09:57:36 <Jigar54> I went through the docs but could not find a way to install moin and moreover i want to start contributing so can anyone help me ??
5 2013-12-07T10:03:58 *** Jigar54
6 2013-12-07T10:18:53 *** Jigar54
7 2013-12-07T10:19:31 <Jigar54> i want to start contributing for moin...can nanyone guide me through ??
8 2013-12-07T10:41:18 <ThomasWaldmann> Jigar54: please ask specific questions about what is missing in moin2 docs
9 2013-12-07T10:42:00 <ThomasWaldmann> install IS documented there
10 2013-12-07T12:00:32 <Jigar54> okay sorry sir i ll look at it once again.
11 2013-12-07T12:04:57 <ThomasWaldmann> you are reading the stuff linked from MoinMoin2.0 wiki page, right?
12 2013-12-07T12:07:35 * ThomasWaldmann brb
13 2013-12-07T12:10:00 <Jigar54> yaa i got the thing but i m not familiar with the use of mercurial...its giving me an error..no problem sir i ll figure it out in some time
14 2013-12-07T12:39:02 <ThomasWaldmann> Jigar54: you need to be more specific. "an error"?
15 2013-12-07T12:46:08 <Jigar54> hg clone http://hg.moinmo.in/moin/2.0 moin-2.0
16 2013-12-07T12:46:13 <Jigar54> i typed the following command
17 2013-12-07T12:46:37 <Jigar54> it says no such file or directiry
18 2013-12-07T12:53:40 *** Jigar54
19 2013-12-07T14:50:26 *** RogerHaase
20 2013-12-07T15:03:37 <RogerHaase> ThomasWaldmann: I replied to your comment about script renames: https://codereview.appspot.com/36680043/ but if that is not acceptable, there is an alternative to delete makemoinmenu.py and put the login in quickinstall.py: https://codereview.appspot.com/38680043/
21 2013-12-07T15:04:46 <RogerHaase> two cr numbers that look the same ^^ :-D
22 2013-12-07T15:22:46 *** RogerHaase
23 2013-12-07T15:42:15 *** sudo_dirk_
24 2013-12-07T16:08:02 *** sudo_dirk_
25 2013-12-07T18:44:03 *** RogerHaase
26 2013-12-07T19:14:10 *** Jigar54
27 2013-12-07T19:22:03 <RogerHaase> Jigar54: are you still stuck trying to clone moin2? What OS do you use?
28 2013-12-07T19:34:18 <Jigar54> mint-OS...i downloaded the archive from the link given instead
29 2013-12-07T19:34:39 <Jigar54> will that work correctly with the same installation procedure ??
30 2013-12-07T19:36:24 <RogerHaase> if you want to contribute, you must get hg (mercurial) working. Can you do "hg --version"?
31 2013-12-07T19:37:34 <Jigar54> yup it says version 2.7.2
32 2013-12-07T19:39:42 <Jigar54> still it isnt allowing me to clone
33 2013-12-07T19:39:43 <RogerHaase> and when you do "hg clone http://hg.moinmo.in/moin/2.0 moin-2.0" the only output line is no such file or directory?
34 2013-12-07T19:40:39 <Jigar54> now it is showing abort: error : connection timed out
35 2013-12-07T19:40:40 <ThomasWaldmann> Jigar54: what happens if you just enter: hg
36 2013-12-07T19:41:07 <Jigar54> shows a list of basic commands
37 2013-12-07T19:41:13 <Jigar54> has clone in it
38 2013-12-07T19:41:16 <ThomasWaldmann> and do you use some restrictively configured proxy?
39 2013-12-07T19:41:39 <Jigar54> i used to do that but i just changed it nd now i dont use it
40 2013-12-07T19:41:48 <Jigar54> i will check it once again
41 2013-12-07T19:49:37 <Jigar54> yes sir proxy is removed
42 2013-12-07T19:52:21 <RogerHaase> so you are back to connection timed out? try the other repo "hg clone http://bitbucket.org/thomaswaldmann/moin-2.0 moin-2.0"
43 2013-12-07T19:52:41 <ThomasWaldmann> btw, you don't need to say "sir" on IRC (at least not on our channels)
44 2013-12-07T19:52:59 <ThomasWaldmann> either use nickname or first name, that's the usual thing
45 2013-12-07T19:53:47 <Jigar54> okay :)
46 2013-12-07T19:54:39 <Jigar54> yes i tried that but it still is showing connection timed out or no such file or directory
47 2013-12-07T19:55:01 <Jigar54> i cant understand why the error keeps changing!
48 2013-12-07T19:56:09 <ThomasWaldmann> well, it usually works (tm), so it is likely your connection (or less likely: your client)
49 2013-12-07T19:56:39 <ThomasWaldmann> we often had students from india with bad connections or evil proxies / firewalls
50 2013-12-07T20:01:30 <RogerHaase> Jigar54: is sharky93 at the same university as you?
51 2013-12-07T20:01:51 <Jigar54> so is there a way to install it other than this ??
52 2013-12-07T20:02:10 <Jigar54> i m from IIIT Hyderabad
53 2013-12-07T20:02:29 <Jigar54> i dnt knw frm where sharky93 is
54 2013-12-07T20:03:22 <Jigar54> yes he is frm the same institute
55 2013-12-07T20:04:28 <Jigar54> but i m not currently at my institute i m at my homeplace and thus my home net connection
56 2013-12-07T20:09:26 <RogerHaase> once you get past the clone, the install phase will download many packages, so a bad internet connection will cause problems there as well.
57 2013-12-07T20:09:59 * ThomasWaldmann thinks these students should really talk to the network admins
58 2013-12-07T20:10:48 <Jigar54> ohh...so as of now is there something that i can do ?
59 2013-12-07T20:10:56 <ThomasWaldmann> if it's a temporary problem, that's ok and will solve by itself, but it sometimes seems to me it is rather a evil proxy, hindering students from learning.
60 2013-12-07T20:11:35 <ThomasWaldmann> Jigar54: can you download big files?
61 2013-12-07T20:12:08 <Jigar54> i guess it will be a problem with mint-os...cz handling proxy issues in it is a bit difficult
62 2013-12-07T20:12:21 <Jigar54> wait let me check
63 2013-12-07T20:23:16 <Jigar54> no it is giving me some errors in installation itself as i said problem with my os
64 2013-12-07T20:24:37 <ThomasWaldmann> usually using hg, python, ... with linux is rather painless, compared to other OSes
65 2013-12-07T20:25:24 <Jigar54> yes it was definitely good through ubuntu but through mint i have been facing some proxy issues
66 2013-12-07T20:26:05 * ThomasWaldmann has ubuntu 12.04
67 2013-12-07T20:26:39 <ThomasWaldmann> hmm, arnav from #moin didn't make it here...
68 2013-12-07T20:26:50 <ThomasWaldmann> (some other guy from india)
69 2013-12-07T20:27:24 <Jigar54> arnav got it without any issues ??
70 2013-12-07T20:28:01 <ThomasWaldmann> no idea
71 2013-12-07T20:29:40 <Jigar54> okay so is there anything else i can do...till i figure out a way to solve this problem ??
72 2013-12-07T20:35:23 <RogerHaase> If you have some python code, you could read about hg, make your own repo, practice using code review. Try to do something similar to: https://moin-20.readthedocs.org/en/latest/devel/development.html
73 2013-12-07T20:48:02 <RogerHaase> ThomasWaldmann: did you have a chance to review https://codereview.appspot.com/38680043/ as an alternative to https://codereview.appspot.com/36680043/
74 2013-12-07T20:59:58 <ThomasWaldmann> not yet
75 2013-12-07T21:00:48 <ThomasWaldmann> Jigar54: you can read some docs, look at code online, but without having a local repo, it is hard to work reasonably with the code
76 2013-12-07T21:02:01 <ThomasWaldmann> if the problems persist, i can create a big bundle of stuff (complete repo, all dependencies) - but first make sure you could download that, otherwise it would be pointless
77 2013-12-07T21:13:09 <Jigar54> okay am reading the docs.....and what do u mean by code online ??
78 2013-12-07T21:13:26 <Jigar54> i m looking into the cloning problem
79 2013-12-07T21:13:48 <ThomasWaldmann> you can look at the repos on hg.moinmo.in or bitbucket
80 2013-12-07T22:00:05 *** RogerHaase
81 2013-12-07T23:04:37 *** jigar__
82 2013-12-07T23:08:03 *** Jigar54
83 2013-12-07T23:08:51 *** jigar__
84 2013-12-07T23:09:09 *** jigar__
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