MoinMoin: MoinMoinChat/Logs/moin-dev/2015-04-06

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   4 2015-04-06T08:16:44  <daixtr> is it good practice to use virtualenv to setup moin-1.9.8? Asking here, coz i ended up inserting 'sys.insert(0,...' just to make my custom macros work with dependencies installed in the virtualenv.
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   6 2015-04-06T09:39:11  <ThomasWaldmann> daixtr: the usual way with 1.9 was to tweak sys.path, as it had the most important requirements bundled in MoinMoin/support/ anyway
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   9 2015-04-06T13:22:39  <daixtr> ThomasWaldmann: so there's no issue of mixing stuff this way... i was just worried that inserting virtualenv site-packages will break things, etc...
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  24 2015-04-06T15:41:39  <RogerHaase> ronny: hi, I saw you wanted to discuss theming?
  25 2015-04-06T15:44:57  <ronny> RogerHaase: wb
  26 2015-04-06T15:45:46  <ronny> RogerHaase: as far as i know you deal with most of the frontend, because i wanted to kill theming as it is now, and later provide a minimal replacement for it based on template loader
  27 2015-04-06T15:45:59  <ronny> but i'd like to hear your oppinion on that idea as well (since its a bit radical)
  28 2015-04-06T15:47:03  <RogerHaase> I do not know anything about template loader
  29 2015-04-06T15:47:57  <RogerHaase> so if it is better than what we have it is OK by me
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  31 2015-04-06T15:49:46  <RogerHaase> seems biggest problem we have not is having to use both less and stylus. (I once thought I would like css precompilers, but I find they do not help and consume too much time and effort)
  32 2015-04-06T15:49:48  <ronny> RogerHaase: the basic idea would be that moin provides a basic default template, thats nicely overridable, and thems can override singular files or the whole layouy by just adding them in some way
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  34 2015-04-06T15:51:43  <ronny> RogerHaase: hmm, static things are indeed more of a problem it seems
  35 2015-04-06T15:52:40  <ronny> RogerHaase: do you like the basic idea of overriding the base theme via single or multiple files in a theme?
  36 2015-04-06T15:55:11  <RogerHaase> I have been trying to kill off most of the contents of themes/basic/templates (except for layout and show) so themes would be about topbar and sidebar and moin-content DIV would be the same for all themes (although themes could override templates and CSS if there is a reason, but I see not reason for supported themes)
  37 2015-04-06T16:07:21  <ronny> RogerHaase: then it might be a good idea to kill theming alltogether and just provide a way to style top and sidebars
  38 2015-04-06T16:08:06  <ronny> i wonder if that could be made a cached wiki item thats overriable
  39 2015-04-06T16:27:41  <RogerHaase> ronny: content of top and sidebars differ per theme now. If we had a CMS-like theme, then content of topbar and sidebar would also be different.
  40 2015-04-06T16:28:23  <RogerHaase> ronny: your idea is to kill off Flask_Themes in favor of a theme loader?
  41 2015-04-06T17:35:09  <daixtr> hey, i just found out this 'tinymce' GUI editor.. maybe this is an easier to plug into moin-1.9.8.. dunno...
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  43 2015-04-06T18:40:44  <daixtr> hi, need some guide here for enabling email feature.. in the linux server i can already 'echo hello | mail -s "test" user@gmail.com', but what exactly should I put into wikiconfig.py?
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  46 2015-04-06T19:02:22  <RogerHaase> daixtr: I use a gmail account to send mail:
  47 2015-04-06T19:02:23  <RogerHaase>     mail_smarthost = 'smtp.gmail.com'
  48 2015-04-06T19:02:23  <RogerHaase>     mail_from = u'<id>@gmail.com'
  49 2015-04-06T19:02:23  <RogerHaase>     mail_login = '<id>@gmail.com <password>'
  50 2015-04-06T19:02:23  <RogerHaase>  where <id> and <password> are replaced with yours
  51 2015-04-06T19:50:00  <daixtr> RogerHaase: i subcribed to a page, did a change..but did not get an email.. is there a quick way to test if mail works?
  52 2015-04-06T19:52:46  <RogerHaase> daixtr: you do not get an email if you are logged in and subscribed (moin assumes you know your made a change). try logging out and making a change or log in with a different ID
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  54 2015-04-06T20:05:13  <daixtr> RogerHaase: let me test that..
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