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I'm not sure where to put this, so I'm throwing it on your UserPage. Has there ever been any debate over the displaying of all user's IP addresses along with their edits in Moin? We have kept the behavior on Davis Wiki and I was wondering if there was any debate or reasoning you could provide on the matter ( it's being debated over here :) ) --PhilipNeustrom

Hi Thomas,

According to [[CHECK(PageName,md5sum)]]: Maybe it is better to refer to a given revision number of a page instead of the md5sum. This would allow to refer to the original page without implementing a feature to find pages by md5 sum... -- DanielAlder 2005-10-10 10:52:16

Hi Thomas, probably NewPage should create on default new subpages on the page where it is embedded. While it is in WikiSandBox added a bunch of tryout pages are created from possible new MoinMoin users. -- ReimarBauer 2005-11-18 07:29:04

I don't think people ignoring the hint to play in the wikisandbox will follow the hint to play in another wiki. So we would just end up having to clean 2 wikis instead of one. But I will place the wikisandbox in the navibar.

Thomas, is there any reason why not always trailing whitespace should be removed automaticly? At the moment I set it only if I have typed somewhere a space which I like to have removed. I haven't to do this if this is always removed. -- ReimarBauer 2005-12-02 21:51:01

Hi Thomas, can you please have a look at ActionMarket/PackagePages and consider installing the missing zlib module on this wiki, so that people can play with this action? Or, if you don't want to do this for some reason, then please disable the PackagePages action to avoid false bug reports. Thanx! -- RobertSeeger 2005-12-16 10:30:40

<!> I think that:

This is the time, MoinMoin begin define SecurityRules.

-- FrankieChow 2006-01-13 14:15:00

See my comments there. And please: stay (merge) on one page, don't spread it over multiple pages. I also must admit that I have a hard time understanding your English. -- ThomasWaldmann 2006-01-13 09:37:25

Dear Thomas,

Can you review my Patch MoinMoinPatch/SecurityRules ? If you have time. Thank you. -- FrankieChow 2006-01-18 09:07:00

I think I will review that one after 1.5.1. moin 1.5.1 is about important bug fixes, not new features - and as quite some people are troubled by Deepcopy errors on older pythons, I don't want to delay it due to new stuff. The only bigger thing I am really considering is that formatter cleanup - as there is some hope it might fix some of the gui editor converter problems caused by current formatters wrong html output. But I am not even decided about that one, maybe even that gets in after 1.5.1 as it is a bigger change and needs some time for testing. -- ThomasWaldmann 2006-01-18 09:44:05

Hi thomas, whats up with this counter: EventStats/HitCounts ? -- ThiloPfennig 2006-05-13 10:43:00

Another migscript for 1.6: moin.cgi needs changed from MoinMoin.request import RequestCGI has to be from MoinMoin.request import CGI see http://test.wikiwikiweb.de/Migration Because we don't know where the users startup script is located or named it is at the moment impossible to write a mig script for that. An easy solution may be the user has to enter it as parameter to the moin script. So then it is known and could be updated. I'd do prefer this just to ommit a lot of discussions why after migration of data the wiki doesn't work. So there is only one thing to do and only one point to describe.

Hi Thomas, I'd prefer something like the MacroMarket/Hits macro added as macro to the 1.6 additional to PageHits. So someone could see directly on his page how often it was viewed or how often the wiki was accessed. -- ReimarBauer 2006-08-16 17:57:01

I've a question for you: it's possible to change ACL on a page on MoinMaster? -- PaoloPantaleo 2006-09-11 00:23:35

Thanks for your work there, I will change ACLs later. -- ThomasWaldmann 2006-09-11 07:37:14

Ok, I've prepared the work for you: it's only matter to delete an # in each page, because ACLs are already on the text.

If possible, it will be nice if you can modify these two pages WikiCourse and WikiSchulung adding

'(!) See WikiCorso for a course in Italian.'

Sorry, but for me is impossible to edit these pages.

Thank you a lot

-- PaoloPantaleo 2006-09-11 21:09:18

Re: RussellStuart/EmailActivation plugin. A new version 1.1.1 has been uploaded that addresses your requests.

-- RussellStuart 2007-04-10 01:58:00

Thomas,

Interesting that you chose to delete that page in Chinese (http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/%E7%AE%80%E4%BD%93%E4%B8%AD%E6%96%87MoinMoin). We had a couple pages turn up in Chinese on the Python wiki. Before simply deleting them I passed them through the Chinese-to-English Google Translator. Their content looked legitimate to me, so I let them be.

SkipMontanaro -- 2007-04-12

Well, this wiki (MoinMoin wiki) is mainly in English. Other language content is usually only tolerated on pages dealing with translation for some specific language (but the page title is still in english and also some words about what the page is) or some few words on a wiki homepage additionally to some english text.

Translations of system and help pages should be done on MoinMaster wiki ONLY.

If someone puts up some content in languages we do not understand, we usually think that it was for testing only and will delete the page.

-- ThomasWaldmann 2007-04-12 12:59:10

Thomas, I noticed that the Python wiki (http://wiki.python.org/moin/) isn't mentioned on MoinMoinWiki. -- WillGray 2007-04-24 16:52:04

hi thomas,

wie/wo soll man denn das deiner ansicht nach herzeigen mit den processing instructions? 95% der themes machen das so wie rightsidebar. man kann doch nicht 25 bugreports machen für alle die themes die das unschön machen, und für die neuen zum kopieren gleich dazu? und was ich noch nicht ganz verstehe - warum die die grossen und vielen überschriften so cool findest ... hast wahrscheinlich einen 80 cm fernseher zum arbeiten :)

$SIG$

Hi Rupert,

3rd party themes sind 3rd party themes, wenn Du die gefixt haben willst, musst deren Entwickler ansprechen.

Es wuerde aber wohl auch helfen, die eingebauten Themes zu fixen (denn die werden oft als Vorlage benutzt). Wenn also ein Bug in einem mitgelieferten Theme (rightsidebar) auftritt, dann mach nen Bugreport fuer rightsidebar theme, haeng den Screenshort dort an, benutze das bug template und gib alle wichtigen Daten an. Ich kann nicht versprechen, dass es dann sofort gefixt wird, aber der Bug wird dann solange in der Liste der Bugs auftauchen, bis es jemand fixt.

Ich arbeite gerade auf nem 10" TFT. :)

mfg Thomas

Hi Thomas,

I think this idea is pretty important and I'd like your thoughts. I'm not sure what the implementation/release timeline is for this feature, so I want to push this idea as soon and as far as possible :) ...

My assertions: The introduction of hierarchical ACL should not change how any acl directives in existing wikis work, or the acl usage model for that matter. Wiki sites already using ACL (in a non-hierarchical way) should be able to continue doing so without any changes, while still being able to choose hierarchical ACL where needed.

The reasoning:

  1. There's no reason why the rules have to change.
  2. A user should not have to make the choice between all-hierarchical ACL and no hierarchical ACL at all.

I think this is a fair representation of what most users would want.

-- SteveDavison 2007-08-21 06:05:09

Hi Thomas, thanks for your latest xapian patch/update (CamelCase); now a FullSearch for CategoryLinux e.g. Linux works :-) bye -- MarcelHäfner 2008-05-06 06:14:21

G'day Thomas, on the PhpWikiMoinMoinConverter page you ask for folk to test the updated conversion script. I had a go after making a couple of changes to suit a postgresql database and the script failed in a way that seems unrelated to my changes. More detail on that page. Cheers, Josh 2008-07-23.

Talk Notes:

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later:

- Hi Thomas, please have a quick look at CarstenLemmen/SearchPlugin: I used the Moin icon and I am not sure whether this is legally correct. -- CarstenLemmen 2009-01-09 13:04:37

Hi Thomas, I'm trying to use the MoinMoin interface in Galician, but the language is not available in the UserPreferences list. There is a PO file, but it seems to be a little out-of-date (version 1.5.6). I found the statistics of the PO file:

403 translated messages, 138 fuzzy translations, 195 untranslated messages.

and I suppose this is the reason why a translation into Galician was not included with the current version. I could complete the untranslated (and fuzzy) messages. Should I work on the file from http://master.moinmo.in/MoinI18n/gl ? I was reading the old threads in the moin-dev list, but the last message was in 2005. When I finish the translation, what shall I do with it? Thank you, and sorry for bothering you. -- SusanaSotelo 2009-01-15

Welcome, Susana!

Well, it depends:

Please also clean up the gl stuff, there is:

I don't know which of those pages is "better", but 2 of them are definitely 1 too much.

Thanks for helping!

-- ThomasWaldmann 2009-01-15 08:36:27

Mutation requests

InterWikiMap should have 

DocBook http://wiki.docbook.org/topic/

Test: FrontPage

Note also that the hyperlink to master19 does not work as expected at InterWikiMap (note at top).

Hello, Thomas. What do you think about making http://moinmo.in/ international, e.g. maintaining several localizations of this site? I think, this is the next step after translating interface and system pages, and it can make MoinMoin more popular in non-english community, i suppose. My apologies, if this have been discussed earlier. -- EugeneSyromyatnikov 2009-10-06 13:44:26

Hi Eugene,

well, in a perfect world, I would say "yes, of course we want that". BUT, we are far from perfect with the current site content, thus translating it would be just lots of work and would be outdated soon (or even worse: you maybe would translate already outdated content).

So, for now, I think we better stay "mostly English" and work on improving what can be done with our limited resources.

BTW, we'll likely restructure the system and help pages for moin 2.0 on the (soon to be created) moin 2.0 master wiki a lot, so if you are staying with us, maintaining the russian translation, I promise you won't get bored. :)

-- ThomasWaldmann 2009-10-06 14:46:08

A release candidate will be there next weekend. Release in November? -- ThomasWaldmann 2009-10-06 19:49:10

As i've understood, HelpOnInstalling was renamed to InstallDocs. But new name wasn't added to the list of system pages (i think) and now installation manual on moinmo.in is missng. It will be great if it returned again. -- EugeneSyromyatnikov 2009-10-07 07:22:23

I have personal page on MoinMaster and use it for inserting variables on non-template pages (i do not know any other way defining custom variables or workaround variable substitution). Please delete it or exclude from packaging before release. -- EugeneSyromyatnikov 2009-11-06 02:31:43

Hmm, preferable would be if this also works if you create that page at http://moinmo.in/EugeneSyromyatnikov/MyDict.

Agreed, but custom variable substitution doesn't work on MoinMaster with MyDict page on moin wiki, unfortunately. Thus, this should be implemented explicitly (should i create FeatureRequest?) or workarounded as described earlier (delete or exclude before packaging). -- EugeneSyromyatnikov 2009-11-06 12:35:42

Hi Thomas, I'm using this MoinMoin from time to time from public wlan, so it would be nice if the access could be also https, even a wrong certificate would help me to secure my passwords, etcetra. what do you think? bye -- MarcelHäfner 2009-12-04 15:41:11

Hi Thomas,

The underlay pages (especially the HelpOn pages) look like they have been written by a lot of different people over a long period of time... An idea for a Google 2010 Summer of Code project would be to apply a consistent look and feel to all the underlay pages. A starting point could be to create a HelpOnUpdatingUnderlay pages that would consolidate the suggestions in ThemeGuidelines and PageHeading, add guidelines for when it is OK to not have heading (RecentChanges, etc.), when to have a table of contents and how to style it, etc. Part 2 would be to fix the underlay pages per the guidelines.

-- RogerHaase 2010-03-12 15:32:56

Summer of Code is about developing software, so just improving the docs can't be a project there. -- ThomasWaldmann 2010-03-12 19:30:56

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